- The Washington Times - Monday, February 7, 2000

New York Mayor Rudolph W. Giuliani tied a record for same-day Sunday morning talk-show appearances yesterday, as he engaged in an all-out effort to upstage first lady Hillary Rodham Clinton the day she announced her Senate candidacy.
Mr. Giuliani, who made it clear he's running against Mrs. Clinton to represent New Yorkers in the Senate, used the concentrated media exposure to accuse Mrs. Clinton of spending hundreds of thousands of tax dollars for campaign travel expenses and to denounce a far-right Austrian political leader with whom he shared the dais at a banquet in New York last month.
"You are looking at maybe $200,000, $300,000 in taxpayer money that went to pay for [Mrs. Clinton's] travel expenses all over the state and over the country, actually… . There's something wrong here," Mr. Giuliani said yesterday on "Fox News Sunday."
On NBC's "Meet the Press," Mr. Giuliani criticized Austrian political leader Joerg Haider, whose nationalist Freedom Party joined a coalition government in Vienna last week: "I do not believe he should be part of the Austrian government. Not only has he made statements in the press that are anti-Semitic, he's made statements that are strongly anti-immigrant."
"Meet the Press" and "Fox News Sunday" were two of five network news talk shows Mr. Giuliani appeared on yesterday. The only other newsmaker to appear on that many on one Sunday was William Ginsburg, a California lawyer who, for a time, represented Monica Lewinsky following public disclosure of her sexual relationship with President Clinton in early 1998. Mr. Ginsburg was later replaced by two Washington lawyers.
Just hours before Mrs. Clinton officially announced her bid to seek the New York Senate seat being vacated by Democrat Daniel Patrick Moynihan, Mr. Giuliani took to the airwaves and charged that taxpayers have absorbed an unfair proportion of Mrs. Clinton's campaign travel expenses.
"The difference is the following: I am the Mayor of New York City. They have the White House working for them and supporting them. The reality is I took 14 trips over the last six months and I paid $153,000 for those. Mrs. Clinton took something like 50 or 60 trips and paid $34,000… . The taxpayers paid the rest of that," Mr. Giuliani said on Fox.
He referred to an article in the National Observer, "that says the White House is really running Mrs. Clinton's campaign."
Earlier this month, the Clinton campaign criticized Mr. Giuliani for sharing a large dais table with Mr. Haider on Jan. 17, when the two men attended a dinner sponsored by the Congress of Racial Equality.
"I did not know who he was at the time. I found out afterwards, read about him, and said the first time I was asked that he should not be part of the Austrian government. Haider is totally antithetical to my viewpoint," Mr. Giuliani said yesterday on NBC.
On Fox, Mr. Giuliani was asked about Mrs. Clinton's accusations that New York municipal employees are helping his campaign. "We have a campaign staff. They do all the work," Mr. Giuliani said.
He acknowledged "there's always an overlap" when a "president is running for re-election or a mayor is running or whatever." But he said he tries "very hard" to have his campaign staff "handle all the campaign things."
The Office of Independent Counsel will be releasing a report on the Whitewater land deal during Mrs. Clinton's campaign, and Mr. Giuliani was asked if he intends to use it against her.
"I never say I am or not until I read something," the mayor said.
But Mr. Giuliani added it's his "desire" to focus on issues such as the job growth, the reduction in crime and welfare, and the increase in adoptions of foster children that have occurred in New York City under his watch.
"The entire state should be gaining jobs the way New York City is," Mr. Giuliani said on Fox.
"The programs and policies and the philosophy that I have, which have worked in America's largest city, can, basically, work anywhere," he added.
Although Mr. Giuliani has not formally announced his Senate candidacy, and admits he is not sure he will, he left no doubts yesterday he's running against Mrs. Clinton.
On Fox, the mayor was asked by Brit Hume: "Can we assume you wouldn't be running the talk-show gauntlet if you weren't running" for the Senate?
"Yes," Mr. Giuliani said.
On CNN's "Late Edition," he said running for the Senate "right now is very much the direction we're moving to." He said he's raised $12 million to date.
Mr. Giuliani was even more direct about his political intentions on NBC: "Well, here I am, in the last year of my term as mayor of New York City, and I'm running for the Senate."
In his appearances on the talk shows, Mr. Giuliani pointed to a poll that showed him seven percentage points ahead of Mrs. Clinton. But another new poll, released later yesterday, showed the two candidates dead even.
Mr. Giuliani and Mrs. Clinton both support gun control and abortion rights, but the mayor yesterday stressed their differences on other hot-button issues, such as taxes and health care.
In New York, "we try to maintain essentially a private, competitive system of medical care and health care" instead of a nationalized, government-controlled system such as the one Mrs. Clinton pushed for early in her husband's first term, Mr. Giuliani said on "Meet the Press."
The health care program in New York City helps employees of small businesses that cannot afford health care coverage to pool together to gain access to coverage from a wide range of providers, the mayor explained.
Mr. Giuliani also said he would seek to cut some of the $15 billion in federal taxes that New Yorkers pay every year.
Mr. Giuliani and others derided efforts by the Clinton campaign to portray the mayor as a Republican who will be marching in lock step with conservative Republican leaders in Congress.
"That's a little ridiculous. Rudy Giuliani doesn't march in lock step with anybody," CNN political analyst Bill Schneider said on "Late Edition."

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