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If you want an indicator of the real Obama, just get him to town halls. His off the cuff remarks (small town America) and any town halls will give a clear indication. Barack Obama is speaking from a prepared case file NOT from his values. He is a lawyer and socialist. He wants the power to redistribute wealth according to Obama. His energy policy is an environmental policy not more energy (read it). His economic policy is control, windfall profits tax controls profits and increased capital gains controls investment. He views the military as a necessary evil, just like Clinton and his latest statement about Russia's invasion of Georgia indicates a clear foreign policy of what he called "principled diplomacy" which is a duplicate of Clinton's pursuit of legal excuses for NOT taking action that gave us the WTC, the Khobar Towers, the Embassies and the USS Cole bombings, Black Hawk Down and has anyone seen Haiti lately?
Wow, a politician that wants to win an election. What a surprise.
Oh soxconn, "He is a lawyer and a socialist", what BS, get a life.
Obama is probably the most 'empty suit' ever to run for office next to Herber Hoover. Both were highly educated, for all good that did regarding Hoover's presidency. Intelligence and intellect are far removed.
When one hears one of his 'tent revival' speeches, they have no solutions, no substance, and no new ideas, just a massive re-distribution of income.
When one looks at the meteoric rise of Obama, you don't have to look very hard to see the thin but strong gossamer threads of Daley and the Chicago Machine. You think that the Clintonistas were corrupt? You ain't seen nothin' yet!
Wow what a stunner. He's just a man. What idiots on both sides. One side thinks he's a marxist socialist. But then again that side thinks everyone to the left of, to the left of...mmmm....I don't think it's to the left of anything. Just a great shop worn phrase so many dead heads on the right swallow like cream instead of pablum. The other side is so desperate for a savior they can't see straight. What a joke.
I read "kc"s remarks several times over and still can't understand what they say. He doesn't know what "marxist socialist" means? That it is to the left of the political spectrum? I have a suggestion for you, kc, head on down to Venezuela, or better yet,Cuba, and spend a little time there. After a year or so come on back and see if you learned what "marxist socialist" is. And by then you can sit back and enjoy
the McCain presidency. B.O. is EXPOSED.
I totally agree with the points here. Too many anti-Obama people bring up these spurrious arguments, Obama is a muslim, Obama hates America. And maybe he does but we can't prove it.
What we can prove, is that he has no judgement (against the surge), his policies are wrong headed (tax increases during a recession), and he does what is politically expidient over what he feels is right (reversal on nearly every platform he held during the primary).
It is these issues that Republicans should be hammering. We have to get the message out now about these facts, in order to convince the rest of our countrymen to make the right choice in November. If Republicans stick to the same old tired lines of Obama not having a platform, or being a secret Muslim, it just makes Republicans look bad, not Obama.
I have to laugh.
Never mind Obama, Soxconn once again tries to bring out the tired old Clinton whuppin stick..
The easily-checked truth is despite what Right-wing nutjobs like him and liar Jerome Corsi say, Clinton did exactly the right thing after the Cole bombing.
The people who planned and executed the COle bombing, as well as many of their associates, ended up in Yemeni prisons just weeks after Clinton's task force coordinated with Interpol and sent his FBI Director, Louis Freeh himself, to Yemen the day after the bombing to spearhead the investigation.
You people are just stuuuupid, and like to think everyone else is, too.
Welcome to "The Age of the Google", where stuupid assertions like yours can be checked instantly, and propagandists are unclothed and left to stand naked.
I do believe that seems to be the main point of this writer, too: In this day and age, assertions like the ones Soxconn likes to drag out only make the smear-Election machine clog up and grind to a halt as plans of attack like "He's an UnAmerican Muslim!!" are checked and discarded in seconds by anyone with half a brain.
Time for Phase II, guys. See hwere that one gets you. Last I looked, Obama's up 14, and McCain needs two touchdowns to tie late in the 4th quarter, with a shrinking list of play options to run.
Wellstone is correct. Google the Cole incident and find this:
"By May 2008, all defendants convicted in the attack had escaped from prison or been freed by Yemeni officials"
Yep that Clinton gang sure knows how to stick it to the terrorists.
They are sooooo lucky Clinton didn't go after their empty tents.
Meanwhile google shows this too:
On November 3, 2002, the CIA fired a AGM-114 Hellfire missile from a Predator UAV at a vehicle carrying Abu Ali al-Harithi, a suspected planner of the bombing plot. Also in the vehicle was Ahmed Hijazi, a U.S. citizen. Both were killed. This operation was carried out on Yemeni soil.
So Clinton puts them in jail for a short time and Bush puts then in the ground for ever.
Want to bet which method results in no more terrortist attacks from an individual?
Well, it's plainly (painfully) obvious to any New Yorker (I am one) that Bill Clinton's approach to fighting terrorism, and his "response" to Al Qaeda's attack on the USS Cole, didn't work so well. Give credit where it's due, we have been blessed with relative peace within our shores since 9/11.
And Wellstone, here is a little secret, just because you can find something on Google doesn't make it true, or complete, or accurate. Just as info. I can pretty much find any fact I choose via google. But, I only talk about the ones that are factual.
I think that some aspects of the law enforcement approach make sense in fighting terrorism. And some aspects of military enforcement are required as well. News to Democrats, this is already the case now. We use the military in theaters where they are appropriate, AND work with many countries law enforcement as well. What are you suggesting, that it's an either or choice? It's not.
The attack on 911 occurred on Bush's watch. MONTHS after he was elected, MONTHS after he had a chance to do something about the problem that he should have known about, and we now know was told about in detail, MONTHS after he dismantled the Cabinet-level office Clinton created to fight the GWOT, MONTHS after Cheney, who was tasked with replacing that office, did not hold a single meeting.
Bush instead set a record his first year for days off on vacation.
The Yemeni convicts escaped on Bush's watch, not Clinton's. The Bush White House's insistence on erasing all the Clinton terror initiatives for political reasons, and taking their eye off the Nation's business and focusing instead on GOP business is what brought us to 911. And it continues to this day.
Real New Yorkers know this, and will never forgive him.
And to the other wingnut: Bush may have had an innocent man killed, and may have also ordered the murder of an innocent US citizen on foreign soil.
We'll never know, will we? Idiots.
You probably think there's a war in Iraq, too, instead of an ongoing illegal occupation.
Wow, less than 8 whole months, to foil a terrorist plan that was many YEARS in the making and abetted by Democrat Gorelick's ingenious "wall" between intel and enforcement? Moreover, your claim that Bush dismantled some Clinton GWOT is plainly laughable.
Look, I'm not blaming Clinton either. Prior to 9/11, perhaps 40 Americans had been killed by AQ terror attacks, and all of those overseas. I didn't expect Clinton OR Bush to take terrorism that seriously, especially not within our own shores. The fact that liberals and their 20/20 hindsight love to forget is that prior to 9/11, no one really believed that such a thing would happen.
If you look at what's happening right now in NYC, with last week's outrage over the strict security measures Mayor Bloomberg has instituted over the World Trace Center area, it goes to my point. People are actually now arguing why these "draconian" measures are necessary! A couple of days ago, Bloomy had to remind them that a terrorist attack on the area wasn't that far fetched just 7 years ago. As humans, we get comfortable and are lulled into a false sense of security. We have to fight that urge if we want to survive.
Another point here. Dems love to chat about how Bush was a war fiend and wanted to go into Iraq from day one. Yet then they make the argument that he was derelict on the middle east and basically paid no attention to any of the goings on there. It can't be both ways - either he was focused on the middle east or he wasn't.
Based on my interpretation of all the speeches and policies at the time, I think Bush tried to ignore the middle east and focus purely on domestic issues. Once 9/11 happened however, (using another New York metaphor) Bush had to institute "Guiliani time" in the middle east. With Afghanistan seeming an easy win (it was), why not fix the other "broken window" in the middle east, namely Iraq, even if it wasn't connected to 9/11 (I was never under that impression that it was).
Was the case to go to war badly made? Sure. Was the war handled poorly? Most definitely. But that doesn't change the fact that it was a good thing to remove Saddam, nor does it change the current situation we are in. And on that, McCain, and not Obama, had the right judgement. That's a fact you can't argue (although I will expect that you will try).
The whole reason why there is such bitter partisanship in this country is because Dems can't admit to these basic truths. It should be about what's best for this country, not about adhereing to some party line. At least Republicans can admit that by and large they are angry with Bush.
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