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flexfamily

McLaren and Warren somehow are more enamored with the image of Obama than the truth of his voting record. Somehow they think the freshness will win over his inexperience. It's like Bill Hybels from Willow Creek pandering to Clinton a few years back. What a waste.
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ZachJonesIsHome

It seems that Senator Obama is described as having one of the most extreme positions that one can find when it comes to the issue of abortion….Normally, I can understand a lawyer’s dancing on the head of a pin for the sake of not wanting to undermine a future legal argument or position. However, regarding Senator Obama, some other details give me pause and raise questions about whether his stated motivation(s) can be trusted. Obama Would Evidently Throw The Baby Out With The Bathwater found at: http://zachjonesishome.wordpress.com/2008/08/02/obama-would-evidently-throw-the-baby-out-with-the-bathwater/
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JLS

Most likely, the reason younger "evangelicals" can be so easily misled is the fault of these new "seeker friendly" churches (like Warren's) that focus more on entertainment than teaching the Word of God. Anyone knowledgeable about the Word of God would not be voting for Obama. It's not just the abortion issue, of which he is the most liberal by the way in the entire Senate. Obama believes there is more than one way to heaven -- now how does that square with your Christianity??
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cedarhill

Got it. “Fetus fatigue” leads to “euthanasia fatigue” which leads to “Holy Ghost fatigue” which leads to “Holy Father fatigue” which leads to “Christ fatigue” which leads to “10 Commandment fatigue” which leads to “Bible fatigue” and then obviously leads to joining the Democratic Party. Interesting strategy and interesting explanation.
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Garland

I am convinced that at least 75 percent of Obama's young supporters know nothing about him and have been completely brainwashed by the corrupt mainstream media. They are the American Idol watchers who have been told over and over again that Bush is a failure and Obama represents "change." Most never heard of a country named Georgia and cannot name one Supreme Court justice.... but they can tell you what Britney Spears had for breakfast.
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beckymph

I am a former Republican/Bush supporter who will also vote for Obama. One thing that no conservative has been able to explain to me is how they can be "right to life" and still accept capital punishment?
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Garland

To beckymph: This is a simple one.... The unborn babies are completely innocent. The prisoners on death row have committed horrible atrocities against humanity. You are talking night and day here. Your candidate, as a state senator, voted for a bill that would allow a doctor to kill a baby lucky enough to survive and abortion. That live baby would be placed on a hospital bed and left to die.
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freedomtothelast

How can a Christian vote for Obama??? Please enlighten me...for goodness sakes he his so pro-abortion and says that if his daughter made a wrong choice and got pregnant then he wouldn't want her to have to endure the punishment of her mistake...HAVING A BABY IS PUNISHMENT!!!...i don't completely agree with Mccain but all I can say is NOobama
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JLS

This morning on Fox News when asked whether it doesn't bother him that Obama is pro-choice, Warren identified himself as pro-life but said there are other important issues to him, like whether a baby will live in poverty, etc. But that's putting the horse before the cart, isn't it? What good does it do to be concerned about a "life of poverty" if there is no guarantee of the right to life in the first place?
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Artbyruth

For a person claiming to be a Christian to even consider voting for a man that supports partial-birth abortion makes me question their claims to salvation. Then to compare pro-life verses capital punishment is just shameful. First, someone on death row has the right to an attorney for representation. An innocent baby inside its mother's womb has no one representing it. Second, a person on death row has the right to appeal the court's decision to terminate his/her life. An innocent baby inside its mother's womb does not have the right to appeal its mother's decision to terminate its life. There is no comparison. A baby has no priors...and most people on death row have long lists of prior crimes that they have committed. They are not innocent. Babies inside their mothers' wombs are innocent. Obama is the wrong choice for America. How can you vote for someone who believes it is ok to kill a child? And who thinks we have 57 states in the union?? THINK people, THINK!!!
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Mag7

I'm also voting for Obama. Abortion is horrible but do not accuse Obama of supporting "partial birth" abortion. Roe v. Rade depicts 3rd trimester abortion only to save the mother from death. At one time it was not uncommon for the mother to die due to complications. Those desicions fall to a woman and her doctor, not the government. And please don't tell me that only liberals have pre-marial sex and/or abortions, or that McCain is anti-choice, or that the constitution is based on Christianity. I am a traditional conservative that knows better.
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Mag7

Garland, my wife works in neo-natial and I can assure you that babies are NOT left alone to die unwanted in any American hospital. That is the degree of nonsense that depicts your argument as terribly uninformed. There are wonderful placement agencies, some religious and some government that would ALWAYS play part of post delivery consequences of an unwanted newborn. Please do not accuse others of misinformation or ignorace while stating your own whopper.
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Artbyruth

Seems like many Obama voters here have no idea what their candidate has done in the past regarding abortion rights. The man supports a "fetus" that survived an abortion still be killed when it is outside the womb. And don't give me spin on partial-birth abortion. With medical advances today, it is RARE that a baby can harm the mother's life anymore. It is murder. Nothing else. I know because I was in that position when I was pregnant and was told by a nurse, my mother, and doctors to "terminate the pregnancy" (kill my baby) in order to save my self from pain, possible miscarriage, and even death. I am glad I shook all those people off and stayed in bed for 6 months so that my son could live. After many hospital stays, ambulance rides, pain meds, and other scares....my son was born healthy and beautiful. And I can not have anymore children. Had I aborted him...I would have killed my only child. Had I listened to all those sick individuals who only see an unborn baby as a lump of cells, I would have missed out on the last 13 years of my life as a mother. So don't give me that abortion spin crap. I was once a Liberal, pro-choice, feminist Democrat...I know the whole "spin" about it. I was once one of those sick individuals who has seen the light thanks to God. McCain is far better on the issue that Obama. At least he thinks the legal matter of abortion rights belongs to the people for a VOTE and not the Judicial branch of government. Let the people of the USA vote on abortion and you will see it go away. But the Dems don't want the people to vote on it for that very reason.
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Garland

MAG7 I am speaking about legislation that Obama voted for - and not what goes on in your wife's hospital. Look up Obama's voting record on the internet. Become informed. Artbyruth's post says it all... Killing a developed fetus outside the womb is nothing short of murder. Our founders did base the government on Christian principles. One nation under God.... I think your problem is that you know you are supporting a fraudulent thug who was fixing parking tickets in a corrupt area of Chicago a few years ago....... and the truth is painful to you.
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ataloss

Beware the wolf in sheeps clothing. Shame on Rick Warren or any other Christian that opens their door to an absolute abortionist who is only trying to sway voters by saying what they want to hear. Where do you think abortion and pornography pedlers are sending their candidate contributions. Not to John Mc Cain that's for sure. The democat candidate is reaping the wages of sin raised by the immorality of hollywood. How someone could vote for him and go sit in a church the next day is a mystery to me. Mr Obama is a heathen that worships at the altar of liberation theology. 100% NARAL rating tells you all you need to know about pulling the lever in November.
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