Russia threatens Poland over pact with U.S.

I hear growling. Russia has been a big old dangerous bear for over a thousand years. Putin is another Hitler and cannot be trusted. This is no time for anyone to be considering an unexperienced, affirmative action presidential candidate with a pathetic 143 days US Senate experience.

This is one time when Bush needs to take a serious stance, even though the Georgia fiasco is looking like his muff. Poland has a sorry history of being trampled by Russia and deserves every right to protect its sovereignity. Don't forget the pact Stalin made with Hitler to split Poland, of course which just gave Hilter a running start to Moscow. Defensive missiles aren't warheads either, they simply collide with incoming warheads. Putin should shut his bald head up.

This could be a cold war, especially if Russia uses energy as a weapon again this winter. It is an oblique war with developing fronts. It's a huge predatory economic and political manipulated phase space with trajectories that close in blink to a single point attractor, primacy. Russia was ready and we weren't. Poland has just closed another one, are we ready for that?

Please Mr. President. Don't try to convince us that Russia offers any kind of real help in countering Iran's nuclear ambitions. Russia's agenda is quite clear, Putin is less trustworthy than the rattlesnake I saw crossing our road here the other day, and we are deluding ourselves, or should I say the prez is trying to delude us with any talk of friendship with Russia. The Russians, like the governments of Iran, Cuba, etc understand one thing: military might. A strong military and decisive responses to Russian mischief are the key to containing the re-emerging bear. Anything else is seen by Russia as weakness and opportunity for further 'growth'.

Russia must want McCain to win. These events will destroy an Obama Presidential run, unless America wants to cower and beg from now on. "Please, Mr.Putin, please don't hurt us. Please let us have just a small, little bit of democracy. We promise we won't do anything wrong. You can hurt all those Georgians, Poles, Latvians,and the rest of Europe. We won't say a word, Mr.Putin. We swear. Oh please, don't hurt us. Let's all just be nice to each other, ok?" Obama is weak and inexperienced. What we really need is for George Bush to stay in office. I just saw Obama put on a baseball cap and play to the crowd. He looked like he played in a T-ball League.

This thing is moving too fast and is too dynamic for Bush or the next candidate to be behind the power curve. If you depend on 300 advisors to catch you up, Putin will squash you like a bug.

The basing of US military hardware in former Soviet states is naturally going to rile the Russians. High-powered radars are an important early warning, intelligence, and target acquisition tool, and certainly more hardware would follow. Accurate military information is more valuable and lethal than squadrons of bombers. The Bush administration, invaders of sovereign nations themselves, is deliberately provoking the Russians, further destabilizing the world. Russia should never, ever leave Georgia. We are very close to a third world war, courtesy the bush administration and the incompetent masses that brought such fools to power.

Why would a defensive missile system bother Russia unless it already has plans to retake poland. Yo antibush you could not be more wrong. Iraq under Saddam Violated 14 UN mandates, he played chicken and lost. Russia, Iran have plans to destroy the US influence which has been nothing but a positive force for good around the world, and raised the living standards for poor around the world

If I were Poland. I would say to Russia. " Go ahead , make my day."

Blame is interesting. It relieves the conscience, provides a false sense of superiority and but does nothing to solve the problem. Blaming Kennedy for the Cuban Missile Crisis didn't help solve it. The situation in NATO started with the implementation of NATO. The issue here is how to deal with the Russians next move and Putin's long range objective for NATO.

In my opinion this whole game that is being played out right now is part of the plan of neocons to get McCain elected and stay in power by manufacturing threats to frighten the public. Saakashvili is a puppet and would have not dare to attack Russian peacekeepers and South Osetians unless greenligted by Washington. This is a multistep game to provoke Russians to respond and then paint them as aggressors. The purpose is to isolate Russians and continue Nato expansion eastward to surround Russia with pro-US states with US military bases. We are witnessing what could become the beginning of the next Cold War. And for those of you who do not understand why Russians are protesting placement of missile defense system next to its borders I will tell you missile defense system is a weapon of first stike, that is if US were to strike first and take out some/most Russian missles it would then only have to defend against a limited response. Combined with a growing number of missle defense systems in multiple locations from Poland to Alaska to ship based the system changes stratigic balance and there might come a time in the not so distant future when a winnable nuclear war with Russia is possible. The propaganda machine training the public to see Russia as an aggressive dictatorship is already in full swing and unless the Americans can finally learn to see through the lies the corporate media is feeding them things may get pretty bad for all of us.

A neocon conspiracy? Why would they take a chance on Israel removing Iran's nuclear capability and Iran blocking the Straits of Hormuz while a sympathetic Venezuela decides to send all of it oil to China? Don't forget, the Democrats have controlled the Senate and House for four years. The neocons may good but they didn't keep control of the Congress. No, a conspiracy sounds to much like disinformation.

Message to slavix. You sound like just another sniveling,cowardly "appeasement at any cost" liberal. You need to bone up on your history and understand what thugs like Putin really respect. Poland is not Georgia and it's also a member of NATO. A Russian attack on that country would bring the U.S., Great Britain and most if not all of the Eastern European NATO countries that have suffered under Soviet tyranny down on Russia. The Western European countries like Germany, Belgium, Italy, etc. would also be obligated to join in and geta chance to redeem their recent timidity. Putin may bluster but he won't do something stupid. The Russian military is not that potent and would get their butts kicked.

@slavix: It's a Missile Interceptor Base, not a Missile Base. It is not an offensive weapon. It's purpose is to intercept missiles already in the air in order to keep them from reaching their target. Hence, the term Missile INTERCEPTOR Base. It is a DEFENSIVE system, as you yourself stated. So, if no offense is planned, Russia has nothing to worry about, now do they? Heaven forbid anyone want to protect themselves from a Military power that has shown it knows well how to overreact to any given situation and storm its entire Armed Forces into a country roughly the size of West Virginia.

Slavix, I think you live in the wrong country. If our nation is so evil, why do you live here? You have the liberty to move. I invite you to do so. Let us evil God fearing conservatives have our own country. You, go live with your enlightened ilk!