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Tuesday, August 19, 2008

Obama risking pro-life backlash

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ataloss

The democrats have taken out of their platform the statement that abortions should be rare. The Democratic nominee is a wolf in sheeps clothing who believes in the killing of babies in their mothers wombs at anytime,and letting them die without medical care if they survive an abortion. What a great Christian he is. NOT!!!
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soxconn

How many other issues, moral or otherwise are going to be above his paygrade? Moral relativism is not leadership, it is uncertainty and waiting for the social to make a decision.
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easy1

All scientific textbooks on embryology agree with the bible in that human life begins at conception. See http://www.abort73.com/HTML/I-A-1-medical.html So there is no question from a theological or scientific perspective. Obama even opposed legislation requiring care for a born infant that survived a botched abortion. So regardless of when life starts Obama does not care about protecting innocent human life. The question asked when does a baby get human rights. So as long as everyone agrees the baby is a human then the question is valid - "When does a human get human rights?" McCain's answer would be at conception. We don't know Obama's specific answer except that it is sometime after being born, if ever. He would not give an answer other than saying “it’s above his pay grade”, yet his actions or votes reveal what he believes. He should have given a straight answer consistent with his voting record. The evidence seems to indicate that Obama is not telling the truth about "born alive". The later version of the bill included the language he asked for yet he still did not vote yes. To be consistent he would have had to vote no on the federal bill which others like Boxer and Clinton supported. Obama clearly believes that if an abortion was intended then the baby should be aborted even if he/she is already born. The purpose of BAIPA at the Illinois state level was to protect innocent life post-birth. The reason the legislation came about is that a concerned nurse revealed that in the process of performing an abortion the baby was born alive. The staff in charge in no way cared for the baby nor allowed anyone else to take care of the baby. The baby eventually died. Many babies are born early and even those that are born full term need care – they are babies. Obama says there were already laws on the books protecting infants born alive. If that is the case then why was this baby not protected? Was the hospital staff prosecuted? Obama said abortion rate has increased under Bush. Actually, Obama is mistaken – according to pro-abortion Guttmacher Institute the abortion rate last year was as low as it’s been since 1974. Also, the number of abortions was at its lowest since 1990.
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gypsy_man

Obama's pursuit of pro-lifers just magnifies his extreme position on this issue, including voting against the Born Alive Infants Protection Act. Expect Obama to drop this charade soon. I still wish Obama would answer the question www.notwrightforamerica.com keeps asking: since Obama does not believe life begins even at birth (hence voting against legal protection for infants born alive), when does it begin? 1 month, 1 year, whenever Planned Parenthood says? Another reason Obama is not WRIGHT for America
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jadethearcher77

OBAMA TELL THE TRUTH... YOU ARE A BABY KILLER... You are for killing babies because you like it more than ever that women like to open their legs.... THAT IS WHY YOU ARE FOR WOMEN'S RIGHTS.... WOMEN should be smarter than this... don't give them the right to kill babies, otherwise they should go to jail and get the death penalty because they knew DARN WELL that when they spread their legs they could get pregnant. The only reason you are for this, is so you can get in between their legs. OBAMA you are a baby killer and your past proves it.... YOU CAN'T HIDE FROM YOUR PAST DECISIONS.... and you definitely can't CHANGE THEM, because you are still for them, the only reason why you change any of the bad decisions you make and still would make is because you are forced too. YOU ARE A BAD MAN< and if you get elected you will burn our COUNTRY... THE COUNTRY YOU HATE.... TO THE GROUND.
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jadethearcher77

Oh yeah and one more thing.... He says in his speech on Father's day that becoming a Father starts at Conception, so that means he believes that a baby is a baby and alive at Conception... there is proof of this, just watch his speech that he gave on Father's day. Anyway, since he thinks that a baby is a baby at conception because that is the only way a man can be a Father, then HE IS A BABY KILLER.
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tomc100

How many times can this guy lie and change his position? How many times can the media continue to cover up for this wanker. This guy is an embarrassment to himself and his party. This is what you get when the media and American Idol picks your candidates. Barack, the great white/black hype.
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Garland

Hussein Obama and his angry wife want to convert an entire generation of young Americans into socialists. They are the most dangerous people to ever attempt a White House takeover.
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nokatrina

It is not up to Obama or any woman to decide that a baby must be shredded and killed. Try Psalm 139 to see just how un-Christian this thug is.Obviously he is not a Christian, as he says he is because he is speaking against what the Bible says. Oh yes, during R. Warren's interview he referenced a couple of Bible quotes--ones his advisors gave him and told him to use. Not only is he not Christian, he is a Libertion Theology Muslim. McCain is our only hope at this point. Any man who would deny medical care for babies who have the audacity to survive abortion certainly cannot lead anybody anywhere except to hell. Consider the man's associations; the only he disassociated himself from them (Ayers, Pfleger, Wright) is because it was the politically expedient thing to do. Consider his racist, anti-American, socialist beliefs, along with his awful wife. Consider his flip flops. The man knows nothing. He is a token Harvard grad who knows nothing. Without a teleprompter, he can only say, "uh, er, um,duh." Consider his promise to raise taxes in order to give even more of your tax money to the welfare queens and illegal immigrants. VOTE MCCAIN.
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knightopia

Commenters on mainstream newspaper sites are the most vile and offensive I've ever interacted with in an online forum. The rhetoric here -- against abortion and against Barack Obama -- is so overblown (to the point of wishing Obama himself had been aborted?!) it is ridiculous. Your delusion of anonymity will find you out. Your comments betray the true hatred in your hearts.
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boston1

I think that it was said best by SIndependent in another forum on this site: "There is nothing Christian about handing the life of a woman over to burnt out old men setting in judgment. Bringing life into the world is a partnership between God and woman, you cannot ever explain how God taking a baby at 1, 5, or 7 months gestation or even full term can be explained..... and by the same laws of God, no man, certainly no lawyer or judge can explain the reasons a woman and her maker can come to a time in their relationship where a new life is terminated. These are deep and profound issues between God and his children, the moral ineptitude of church and state do not belong in the middle of a sacred partnership that women have with God, that of bringing life into this world." At the end of the day, it is God, not anyone here who has business passing judgment on others' decisions.
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cyborg0418

Remember, Obama considers babies to be "punishment". This guy is dangerous.
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busymom

Some of the comments made here are hateful, ignorant and completely out of line. Barack Obama has a right to his opinion about abortion just as I do. It's difficult to say with any certainty how many of the posters are male but it wouldn't surprise me if most of them were. That would explain the directive for women to "keep their legs together". I would like to point out to these posters that no matter how open a woman's legs happen to be she would not become pregnant if a man didn't dive between them. Control your own urges before you try to control a woman's right to decide what happens to her own body. Obama didn't invent abortion, he didn't make the decision on Roe vs Wade. To blame him for even one abortion is ludicrous. Vote for McCain if you choose to but stop spouting your hateful lies. In fact, read a book! Some of you are obviously in need of some education.
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rc115shepherd

Its not Obama’s pro or anti-abortion position that is at root his problem with evangelicals’ its is the nature of his understanding of what having a position on a political or a moral issue is, or actually means. It is at root what is missing in his patriotism too. The Senator is dilatants, leftish Oprah Winfre liberal. By that I mean someone who believes you need to be not too serious about anything, lest you offend someone. The Senator is an entertainer, not a leader. Like most abandoned children he wants to be liked, and loved, by the masses. He does not have the leader’s courage to stand for a position; because he believes its right; and to loose the favor masses because of it; and then go home to a loving family, and be consoled in their acceptance of his position. The Senator does not at bottom have any unshakable opinions on anything. Nothing makes him “fighting” mad. He’s willing to lecture about what his opinions are, but he doesn’t care if the listener follows his beliefs or not. He doesn’t really believe anything
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Pendamon

I read Obama's book,and I got an education from it. Most of the commments I read here are emotional, but true assessments of this horrible man. Obama is condemned by his own words---"just words,just speeches". For example, when he said Clarence Thomas should not be on the Supreme Court because he was not qualified, when Thomas had much greater experience and credentials than Obama does (McCain was in a POW camp longer than Obama's entire time in Congress). This IS a scary man who should never have gotten this far. I do not believe he will make it to being President because I think he will be revealed for what he is, and just in time. This man's story will be like Willy Stark in "All The King's Men" who's meteoric rise and precipitous fall served as a warning to all the would-be demagogues in history.
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