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kc1

McCain sloghed off the questions with the usual simple minded answers Cons have grown used to in the last 8 years under President Incompetant. What does it mean giving human rights to embryo consisting of a hand full of cells at conception? What laws should we re-write to accomidate this 'person'? What penalties and law enforcement is invisioned for people who 'murder' this accumulation of cells 2 days after they merged? Spain is trying this approach. Take a hard look at the mess over there. Evil is to be defeated? Defeated how? Does that mean killing all the evil doers or locking them up? The late Alexsandr Solzonitsyn has a great quote on that. "If only there were evil people somewhere insidiously committing evil deeds, and it were necessary only to separate them from the rest of us and destroy them. But the line dividing good and evil cuts through the heart of every human being. And who is willing to destroy a piece of his own heart?" The Gulag Archipelago (1973) Does this mean we're going to invade alot more countries to root out their evil doers? Isn't the invasion of Georgia an evil act? Perhaps McCain plans to send some our troops there? Such answers are for the simple minded or in the current political vernacular...Cons...who eat this pablum up like it was cream.
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Come come kc at least McCain had real answers. The least Obama could have said about a baby getting human rights was when the baby is finally born. Obama could not even bring himself to say that. Remember that this is the same Obama that just recently told a minority audience that a man's obligation to his baby does not end at conception. So Obama appears to disagree with you since he called that clump of cells you refer to as a "baby". Then again, Obama is such a man of "change" that perhaps he has changed that opinion too. The philosophical question of good and evil may be hard to answer but the practical application in the real world is not. I do not have to "cut thru my heart" to know that watching a radical Islamic fanatic cut thru a helpless victim's neck to sever the head from the body is evil. Nor do I have to entertain a philosophical mental struggle to know what to do with such fanatics. I agree with Obama on one point. It appears that much is above his paygrade. Too much for my comfort.
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kc1

It doesn't matter if Obama agrees with my about the "clump of cells". The point that none of this rhetoric address' is if we define that clump of cells into a baby with human rights what are the consequences? That is never addressed. The rhetoric is thrown out as if it was a stand alone statement, whole and self fullfilling by itself. Nonsense. I can see clearly what Al quada is as well. I still don't understand why bin Laden and el Zawahiri are alive. Their every breath is an affront to every American. But again that isn't the point. Pres. Bush's definition of evil led to the invasion of Iraq. What did removing the evil dictator Saadam Hussein have to do with killing every single memeber of al qaeda? Nothing as far as I can see. I don't want to pay for removing other peoples evil. "America does not go abroad to slay monsters" was a perfectly good philosophy. If they come here then we can seek them out in the world to destroy them but we have no need to go slay other peoples demons. We don't do it well and most people aren't very gratful.
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northcoast

Spain? You must be about 50 years behind the news!
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