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slow_poke

This is good news. At least they didn't say no to a review. Many folks take this issue very nonchalantly. Not being a "natural born citizen" is a violation of our Constitution as well as a treasonous act, which no one wants to discuss. Regardless of all the assumptions and attempts to soft pedal the issue, as this article does, he obviously can't prove he is eligible. He shouldn't mind showing a legitimate birth certificate, in lieu of a forgery, as many times as need be. Why does he have several law firms trying to make sure no one sees it, if in fact one exists? Folks, it simply doesn’t compute. The media and those that voted for him simply want to let it pass because it is a “historic event”. He, as well as every Secretary of State, the DNC, the FEC, and others that should have vetted him, should be arrested and charged with treason. It is not up to the individual voter to vet a candidate. If a name appears on a ballot, it is assumed the person has been properly vetted. If he is willing to proceed, what's to say that he will not trample more of our Constitution, or doesn’t anyone care about our rules of the land? If the SC rules in favor of him, they should be arrested as well. Sure, there will be problems if found ineligible, but would you rather have the problems later?
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corporalquick

Take note of the MINCING OF WORDS by Dr. Chiyome Fukino. They have the original. She did not utter the words, "Barack was born in Hawaii and it can be proven." Instead, ANOTHER official said, that Dr. Fukimo MEANT he was born in Hawaii. Very clever. No one can be sued or held liable for what someone else THINKS you mean. Why won't she use the words herself? She's concerned, if by the unlikely chance, she will ever have to surrender the original handwritten document. So, corrupting one official is outside the realm of possibility? Show the ORIGINAL circa 1961 document!!! The press is demonizing anyone who will challenge and they are misstating basic facts. Throw in the fact of Barack's Pakistan trip in the 80's, and we have a national security issue. Wake up at the Court! FInd a way to get your hands on the original document. If there's only a 2% chance that we're dealing with something really, really serious -- would you want it on your watch if you could have prevented it?
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SonAmerica

To those who supported and voted for Obama, I say a heartfelt congratulations. Truly. It was an historic day for all Americans. I did not vote for Obama, but he is my President Elect, and I would like to give him the benefit of the doubt. However, this cloud hanging over his eligibility is making that hard to do. Defending and upholding the Constitution is more important than "unity" and more important than any one personality. The Constitution is absolutely central to our form of government. It is the supreme law of the land. If we begin to ignore the black letter text of the Constitution, then it soon ceases to be a constitution and we are on a slippery slope towards tyranny. Some may say we have already started down that slope, but at least up til now there have been arguments presented (even if poor arguments) that at least attempt to address the Constitutional issues and leave the formal authority of the Constitution intact. Just ignoring it is not acceptable. I just want the Supreme Court to hear the case to show that at least somebody gives a care about the Constitution. They don't even have to necessarily declare Obama eligible/ineligible. I just want the facts and the law on this issue out there for all to see. There needs to be a clear independent determination of the facts and a clear independent determination of the law defining "natural born citizen". Even if the Supreme Court doesn't want to inject itself into a presidential race, it at least needs to be a clearinghouse of the facts and law. Then on Dec 15 trust the Electoral College to do their duty, as they are also sworn to uphold the Constitution. Both of these bodies have a rendezvous with duty. May they rise to the occasion and not shrink.
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SonAmerica

I suspect that Obama himself does not believe he meets the qualifications of "natural born citizen", otherwise he would have cooperated by now. Some point out that he has already released his "birth certificate" on his website. But the posting of a short-form Certificate of Live Birth (COLB) on his website does not suffice, because that same COLB certificate is given to those of foreign birth who just register their foreign birth with Hawaii. Why does he not just allow his long-form birth certificate (e.g. showing hospital, doctor, etc) to be released. I also find it very revealing that Hawaiian officials will not say he was born in Hawaii; they just say they have seen his birth certificate. That's a very odd parsing of words when the direct question was whether he was actually born in Hawaii. Maybe he was born in Kenya and according to law he could still be considered a natural born citizen. I would be okay with that. Just let the facts and the law be aired. Let the chips fall where they may. Our constitutional republic can withstand the truth faced squarely. But we would not be able to withstand just sweeping aside the Constitution for "unity". If we do so, we will have neither. We know that the Supreme Court did not issue of Writ of Certiorari today. They could still take it up next week. May all freedom-loving and Constitution-loving Americans pray this weekend that the Supreme Court will muster the courage to do their duty and hear the facts and law on this prior to the Electoral College meeting on 15 Dec. "We here highly resolve... that government of the People, by the People, and for the People shall not perish from the earth."
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Nobody1234

http://www.freerepublic.com/tag/birthcertificate/index
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Lonnie

Since our Constitution legitimatizes candidates one who fails to fulfill it's requirements is illegitimate. Therefore Obama's status is fraudulent which reduces ALL of his presidential "activities" to a game of charades! We need to get to the heart of the problem. The Supreme Court needs to pry open his closely guarded box of secrets and hold him accountable to our rule of law. The office of president is no place for playing games. There should be zero tolerance for a person who exhibits such clandestine behavior. Who knows what you are getting? You don't.
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norcalauto

As I understand it, the Founding Fathers, (and framers of our constitution); gave careful and serious consideration to the possible ramifications to our country should a future President in any way, have a conflict of foreign allegiance, hence the words, “natural-born". The term is unique in that it applies ONLY to POTUS per Article II, Section I, Clause 5 of the US Constitution. I do not believe the 14th Amendment applies but I am not a lawyer either. Notes to ponder: All natural-born citizens are citizens of the United States -- but NOT all citizens of the United States are natural-born citizens Obama may or may not be a US citizen, entitled to all that a US citizen is entitled to -- EXCEPT POTUS. Obama certifiCATION may or may not be acceptable for most purposes -- in lieu of a CertifiCATE -- EXCEPT POTUS . Obama may or may not still hold US/UKC dual-nationalities -- EITHER way; because he was (admittedly) born with same, he is -- NOT ELIGIBLE FOR POTUS. Obama TAUGHT Constitutional law -- was well aware of his predicament. Obama has gone to great length and expense to prevent release of pertinent documentation -- WHY? Obama cannot claim privacy issues while seeking the authority of Commander In Chief. -- these documents must eventually become part of our history -- past candidates and Presidents have done so willingly Obama has not argued the facts of any case against him -- relies on a technicality of "standing", which has worked (so far) -- 4-5 cases now before SCOTUS -- 17-20 still in the lower courts -- SCOTUS has the power to "drawl" in all pertinent cases -- and make ONE ruling Obama may or may not succeed again on the technicality of "standing" -- it will not end there because voters and opponents will have been -- denied Equal Protection under the law. Obama was never properly vetted for public office -- legislators insist that is the responsibility of the public -- voters have already vetted him twice -- once by voting for him in the primaries -- once by voting for him in the general election What's wrong with this picture? -- according to legislators VOTERS are responsible for vetting public officials -- including candidates for the Presidency -- yet are denied access on grounds of "privacy" -- have NO "standing" to demand proof of qualification to hold the position. -- cannot obtain records without a court order. -- Catch 22? Obama may or may not be inaugurated on January 21st -- if so; do we face the possibility of a usurper in the White House? -- will social and legal chaos ensue? "There is not a truth existing which I fear... or would wish unknown to the whole world." (Thomas Jefferson)
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Gene44

A simple solution is for Obama to present to any of the Federal Judges in any of the lawsuit cases a certified copy of his orignial birth certificate proving beyond a doubt his place of birth and citizenship at the time. According to international law a persons father creates the childrens citizenship. Thus Obama under this law would be a British subject at birth, however, as he was adopted by his stepfather in Indonesia it could be claimed that he is Indonesian. The Surpreme Court must take this case and prove one way or the other the actual legal status in order to uphold the U.S. Constitution. Anything else would be breaking the law of the land.
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rancho2008

I did not vote for Obama or McCain, but I just want to know if any employer has a person applying for a top job in his company and yet there are so many questions popping up regarding his eligibility, do you think the employer will just go ahead and hire him without further investigation? I doubt it. So why not clear up the doubts before Obama takes this highest job in the U.S? Is this really so hard? Strange enough almost no other MSM reports the case.
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mrunpc

If Barack Hussein Obama were a Republican with this hanging over his head I "wonder" if Democrat Big Media would be completely ignoring it. ANYONE who loves this country as I do, should be VERY concerned about what it happening. Just the sworn affidavit from Bishop Ron McRae (google him) is enough to make one's skin crawl about Obama. This issue and many others surrounding his shady past is far from over and a LOT of Americans are readying themselves for something that they sense is coming, something very unusual and bad. Anyone read about firearms and ammunition sales lately? They're skyrocketing nationwide and it's not just because people fear stricter gun control laws. Women are also among those lining up to purchase and one of the most popular weapons on back order is the AR-15 assault rifle...that's NOT your typical home self-defense weapon, folks! Either way, it's going to be an interesting 4 years, isn't it?
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stevedeery

He may be a citizen, he may be natural born, but he is still anti-american. Just move in with the Dixie Chicks, move to France, and everyone will be happy
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creativeogre

It is important to point out that the clause in Article 2 section one, reads "No Person except a natural born Citizen, or a Citizen of the United States, at the time of the Adoption of this Constitution, shall be eligible to the Office of President; neither shall any Person be eligible to that Office who shall not have attained to the Age of thirty five Years, and been fourteen Years a Resident within the United States." "at the time of the Adoption of this Constitution" is a grandfather clause since there were no eligible "Natural born" citizens at the time. The Framers wanted to make themselves eligible to be President, but they didn't want future generations to be Governed by a Commander In Chief who had split loyalty to another Country. The Framers were comfortable making an exception for themselves. They did, after all, create the Constitution. But they were not comfortable with the possibility of future generations of Presidents being born under the jurisdiction of Foreign Powers, especially Great Britain and its monarchy, who the Framers and Colonists fought so hard in the American Revolution to be free of. For more information on all the cases before the courts, and background on the entire matter visit: http://countryfirst.bravehost.com/phpBB3/
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eddieb_lue

saw a copy of the "birth certificate" the obama campaign released to the press. it stated that obama's race was "african-american" that designation is a recent one and was not used when obama was born.
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jl1

I tell you, some of the dumbest people out there are the most educated. I guess by this guys argument, Jindal's citizenship may also be suspect, right? Here's the other thing I find interesting about this. My dad was born under British colonialism. My oldest sister too. Neither one of them is a British citizen.
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dynodick

For the supremes not to take this up will cause great damage to the country. It would also lower our stature among other world leaders. What ever they do, it would be prudent to place all law enforcement and national guard units on standby. Either way, violence will ensue!
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