PIPES: Westerners welcome harems

Most of the nations of the EU have become places where anything goes. They have become so modernistic and secular-humanistic now that they're starting to go back full circle to medieval times, thinking that it's progress. Because their political, cultural, business, and religious leaders and institutions will not stand for something, they will fall for anything. They've become wealthy, comfortable, self-assured, complacent, and free for decades now from any major threat. Even during the Cold War, if things got nasty, they knew that they could rely upon the U.S. to intervene on their behalf. This has been the case for so long now that Europe's elites simply are no longer equipped to deal with a movement such as Islam that is very rigid, doctrinaire, and absolutely certain in its own beliefs on right and wrong. As a result, they give in and compromise. Along with their declining birthrate and their generally liberal abortion policies, Western Europe is committing demographic suicide. This will be more pronounced when non-European groups move in that are more fecund and, even more so, if these non-European men are permitted to have multiple female partners who, along with their multiple children, will be supported by the EU's very generous welfare state. I suppose it won't be more than 30 decades from now that we'll see Europe become a de facto Eurostan, or the United Kingdom a de facto United Islamic Kingdom each with their own peculiar societies bifurcated into secular and shariah sides.

It's called social relativism. Exceptions gain consensus, consensus becomes the rule, consensus has no conscience it only has the social. If the polygamist can't take care of his family he simply turns them over to the state. Read the Washington Times Article: Economic Strife Devastates Pakistan. This is why the deterioration of the family structure in the West will eventually lead to lead to its downfall. It is survival of the fittest through pure numbers and takes us down to the bottom of Maslow's hierarchy of needs.

"That's Bigamy! That's big of me too, let's all be big for a change" Groucho

I think the issue is missed. I have no problems with Mormon polygamy so long as Mormons recognize the personhood of women. In Islam women are chattel. None of the marriages are legal in my opinion as the women rarely enters into one of free will. When as in Iran a girl in grade two is forced to marry her cousin or anyone for that matter I do not think this marriage should be recognized at all whether its a first second or tenth wife. Here is a rather moving testimony about same by Dr. Wafa Sultan http://vladtepesblog.com/?p=85 In essence the issue is not polygamy or rather even if it is the far more serious issue is the right for women to enter into arrangements of free will. Once that is settled, then we can discuss the fine print.

"contracted in jurisdictions where polygamy is legal, including India " It is legal only for Muslims. The law treats us all equally you see.

"Australia: The Australian newspaper reports "it is illegal to enter into a polygamous marriage. But the federal government, like Britain, recognizes relationships that have been legally recognized overseas, including polygamous marriages." Will these very same jurisdictions start recognizing gay marriages if they are conducted in a jurisdiction that supports them? Their answer to this question will be very revealing on whether they are dhimmis or not and whether they allow polygamy in fear of Islam or is it because they think they support the marriage laws of other countries.