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Friday, December 12, 2008

Vatican forbids designer babies

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carljoseph

For the good of all society and each of its members the Catholic Church has again shown the way and the Truth.
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seal4

A voice of reason. The Pope is correct. It would be the rape of the natural world if science is allowed to proceed in this manner.
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GLM2001

I hope the Vatican cleared this with Pelosi and Biden since they think they know Vatican policy better than the Pope.
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steve_101

Does anyone seriously believe that the Vatican has any moral authority left. The raping of children has been & ,I suspect, still is a systemic problem with them. Its embarrassing to hear them issue opinions on moral issues
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papa1

Yes, Steve, some of us do believe that Vatican is morally authorized to utter such issues, for it's the stone made church on earth by our Lord Jesus Christ (Tu es Petrus, et super hanc petram aedificavit Ecclesiam meam). Moreover, it's not embarrassing, as you point; rather, it's Vatican's duty (one of them) to comment on moral issues, for these are life's sake issues, spiritually and morally speaking, and the dignity of an embryo is an article of God's creature respect, not a curious cell upon which Genetics may toy in search of a person.
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papa1

And for those who might suggest children rape are a current law at seminars (what embarrassed you, Steve), I'd like to offer the reading of Goodbye Good Men, a survey bringing forth that Liberals (oh, no! who else?) are the very responsibles (and not priests at large) for recruiting gay and child abuse fonders inside Christian seminars. The result of which being that now we see the rape harvest of that gradually damaging cultivation. Thus it's pretty easy (and modern and chic) to blame Christian priesthood for that. "Let's accuse'em of what we do!", Lenin would choir in rapture. So, it's NOT the point here.
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papa1

Sorry, I meant "ripe" harvest.
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TyinPS

As semen contains life, I wonder if the church forbids it for that reason? Sex shold only occur to create life. Right?
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TyinPS

forbids mast*****tion, that is.
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just_me_again

The Vatican seems to be the only moral authority left. (there are others but looking more and more like the social norm - o where are the peculiar people, shine!). The point is, life, every human life is sacred and precious far beyond our finite comprehension ("the dignity of a person"). Our participation is a gift within the parameters of God's creation. But now with human wisdom, human knowledge, some have decided they can "play God" to the horrible consequences that we reap. With their own hands they dig their graves, nearsighted, to plunge ahead into the darkness.
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steve_101

How do you think that an institution that is identified for the sexual abuse of children is a "moral authority." Only spiritually blind catholics think so. If you could step out of the catholic church for one day & see what the rest of the world sees, you'd be embarrassed. Catholics keep talking about "moral authority" & speaking in Latin & all that silliness but I don't hear much commentary about raping children. They are more corrupt than the mafia.
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papa1

As a Christian, let me be charitable again: please, Steve, read Goodbye Good Men, by author Michael Rose, and there you shall see that you know not what you are talking about, when referring to allegedly Catholic children raping. Plus, do not equal maffia to the Vatican. Think that you may be alive thanks to Catholic Church, who fought as no one else to make sure you would be free, respected as human being, treated as an image of God, and not a mere object or animal as maffians (or some geneticians) appreciate do regard mankind. Be assured that it may be on behalf of the Catholics that you are free to express whatever nonsense your mind is capable of. Ulisses Papa
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just_me_again

Steve: The Catholic Church has been preserved through Christ for thousands of years as His Body (and will be until His return). I challenge you to search this Truth out, in its two thousand year history, in the teachings of its early Fathers, in the Holiness of the Church, in its survival, in Scripture, in the martyrs of the Church. Scandal will come and go, but Christ is eternal and so too are His people, the Church. If you judge the integrity of the whole by the faults of a few, who can survive?
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steve_101

Papa, you still haven't acknowledged that the priesthood of catholic church, not anyone else, is guilty of molesting children. You keep changing the subject to history & writing things in Latin. You talk about spiritual authority but what about spiritual responsibility. Jesus said that "it would be better for a mill stone to be hung around one's neck & be thrown into the see than to cause one of these little ones to stumble." How much of your money & the hard earned money of it's parishioners has the church paid out to victims. They should be ashamed & the church should do the right thing & step aside for leadership that sets a godly example. The leadership in the catholic church is not qualified to be leading. You have a difficult job defending child molesters.
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