DAVIS: Confessions of an anti-Iraq War Democrat

Lanny has done this several times, just as he has me convinced he's a total fool he writes or says something somewhat intelligent.

There is one fact which seems to escape all the "experts", advisors, politicians, generals, etc.: There are approx. 1 billion Muslims in the world. Wherever American troops are sent, they will be there. By the time we spend 6,7,8 yrs. in a country, another crop of young Muslims will have reached suicide bomber age; some are recruited at 14. Anywhere Americans go to fight terrorism,the situation will be comparable to the Korean War: one billion Chinese across the border - the reason Truman wouldn't let MacArthur cross the Yalu.The lesson here (or should be)is that no matter how long we stay or how many troops we send somewhere, we will always be outmanned and out-lasted, if not out-gunned. Read "The Al-qaeda Reader". According to Muslim scholars, Islam is incompatible with democracy. If the Iraqis want a democratic society, let THEM build one. There are enough Iraqis in America to form a brigade. What's ironic is that the Iraqis may end up selling oil leases to the Chinese, and the Americans will lose out on that front, too. We'd have to buy oil from the Chinese. Given our debt situation, we'd have to borrow money from them to do it.And the point of Vietnam was what ? And Somalia ? And Lebanon ? If "lasting peace" was the answer, we were certainly wrong in those endeavors. If anyone believes that we can go in, complete the military action and go home, he should be retired. AS long as Islam exists with world domination as its goal, these conflicts will continue. America needs to stucture its foreign policty based on that premise. Does anyone know the avg. IQ of those in the fed. gov't.? 70, maybe ?

If only all Democrats were as reasonable and level-headed as this one. I applaud Mr. Davis for having the integrity to go against the "nutroots" on his party's far left, to say nothing of petty, spineless jellyfish like Nancy Pelosi, Harry Reid and Howard Dean.

Well-stated TeacherIndep. But this is precisely WHY we MUST succeed in Iraq! Opinion polls have shown that because of their barbaric tacics in Iraq, public support for Al-Qaeda's brand of islam in muslim countries has plunged to all-time lows. THIS is how we ultimately prevent new generations of muslims from wanting to become suicide bombers and it is precisely why pulling out of Iraq too quickly and allowing Al-Qaeda to get up off the mat there would have disasterious consequences not only for the Iraqi people but for us as well. John McCain understands this. Barack Obama, apparently, does not.

you wrong, lanny? gornish! no, nein, nein, all liberal jews are always right all the time. iraq was better under sadaam and amerika will be better under sabbama. let's recap. you and you quorum were right about the civil rights movement; subverting it with welfare helped keep the black underclass on the plantation for the next 1000 yrs. you were certainly, right about socialism; it may not have worked for the russians, but by marx! it's gonna work here under a black hitler. you liberal jews were right about grabbing up every piece of speculative real estate in every major american city; oy vey, non jews need not apply! you were right about "reforming" american education; now, thanks to the united federation of liberal jewish teachers, all goyim stuck in badly run inner city public schools are being grounded in the three r's necessary for a life of crime, riskysex, runwantedpregnancy, rdrugabuse. (did you know chuck schumer's daughter was a drug dealer at stuyvesant? quick lanny here's a chance to rebut the idea that this is only meant to destroy the children of the goyim!) you sixty's radicals were right to take over american universities so that the only disciplines studied would be those that could help inculcate the liberal jewish multi-cultural agenda for the "deconstruction" of western civilization; and you liberal jews were so right to defend the rights of islamofascist terrorists whether on a noble field of battle where resistance fighters honor their liberal jewish sponsors or at club gitmo; and, last but not least you guys were right all along about that nebbish jesus; ossama bin laden is truly your mosshiach! so, what's one out of a billion. keep up the mitsvoth and help destroy amerika fast with stooge obama.

The four groups of people that should never not ever under any circumstance be trusted, (in this order, with #1 being not worthy of trust and #4 being the very least trustworthy): 1. Prostitutes 2. Drug Dealers 3. Democrat/Socialist/Communist Political Hacks (the three differ only by the title, politically there is no difference) 4. Lawyers Given the fact that Mr. Davis falls into catagories #3 and #4 (possibly others), I'd give more trust to the words of a common dope pusher or prositute before I would to his. Just look at his words, for instance: "I think there are a lot of antiwar Democrats who, like me, are impressed by these facts and who now see a moral obligation, after all the carnage and destruction wrought by our military intervention, not just to pick up and leave without looking over our shoulders." Oh come on now! Sounds like something a common criminal who'd just been arrested would say desperately attempting to shift blame to other's for the crimes he had made the decision to commit. I'm not impressed by his phoney supposed awakening. It's obvious this con-artist is just trying to help Obama in his attempt to fool weak minded voters in believing he really is moving toward the center. Nothing but a crock.

Like Obama, like all lawyers, Lanny Davis is speaking for consensus and not his values. If he were speaking values, he would have realized the "moral obligation" when that woman first showed her ink stained finger. Instead the Democrats have instituted a campaign of blame for the past almost eight years to undermine President Bush's authority which has tied this country in political and economic knots. If you want to see Obama's true values, have him embark on a series of town halls like McCain's. You may find gaffes, but you will also find the man's integrity or lack thereof.

You give yourself away, Lanny. "all the carnage and destruction wrought by our military intervention" In spite of the nice sounding rhetoric you still view the U.S. as THE greatest source of evil in the world.

Davis is just doing what he always does. He is out front providing early ground support for Obama's flip. If Obama is elected he'll need this kind of support because he too will come to this same conclusion. Davis is just providing early cover.

Finally a glimmer of sanity from a Democrats. Perhaps the trauma of the 2000 election is wearing off. Can we now expect relief on the security and man made global war issues? And when can we start drilling for oil? Perhaps the rookie Obama will get another season in the minor league.

I appreciate the honesty Lanny has put forth or at least it sounds that way. The only thing it seems Lanny lacks is "vision". I mean Pres Bush, in one of his speeches provided a "vision" of his hopes for a democratic Middle East, starting with Afghanistan and then Iraq. Why are Democrats, in general, as with Lanny, unable to see the future or have vision? And why, when they do see the future, is it always doom and gloom? Why not just cautious optimism?

"Then in 2005-06 came the increased violence from the Sunni insurgents against American kids, then the sectarian civil war between Sunnis and Shi'ites, with young Americans caught in the crossfire." Lanny again insults the American troops by calling them "kids", "caught in the crossfire" and so forth. Our magnificient military are VICTIMS in his and most Democrats' eyes, rather than the proud WARRIORS of an All-Volunteer force. Support and respect our military by supporting their mission, not by treating them as babes in the desert.

Why is it the most democrats in politics always knee-jerk to oppose President Bush rather than reasoning out the situation? If Pres. Bush is for it, they have to be against it. He’s for making us energy independent by developing our VAST oil reserves so, they are against it. He was for taking out a dictator who had tried to build WMDs and had yellowcake (uranium bomb precursor) so, in lock step, the democrats opposed it (and lined up to prop up a dictator???). When I see that, maybe, one of them is coming around (let’s look for the political advantage because to them politics is more important than national security, it seems) then I begin to wonder how things overall might have been different if the entire American political system was focused on VICTORY - would the muslim extremists tried to launch a civil war in Iraq knowing that America was 100% committed to their destruction? I really wonder if the politics of the “loyal opposition” provided aid, comfort, and encouragement to our enemies – if the extremists could just hold out until the democrats came into power... Even now the drumbeat goes on and on about bringing the troops home rather than VICTORY. When you win you get to call the shots. To win the battle/war you have to force the other guy to “strategically redeploy” to a different place. In simpler times this was referred to retreating or loosing the battle/war. By the way, in case anyone hadn’t noticed, getting the belligerents to redeploy to their own countries wasn’t considered winning in WW II. We smashed them into defeat. Since then they haven’t been much trouble at all. There’s a lesson in that. Ask your Dad or Granddad.

The anti-war democrats are covered in blood from the millions that died in Nam after we pulled out, if they force us to pull out of Iraq there will be millions killed there by their actions. And what is going to make it obvious they are wrong the terrorists will come over here after us, then there will be American blood on their hands. So far not many people are willing to confront them over their guilt in the deaths of the people in Nam, but they should.

Sorry, Lanny, you can't choose sides after the war is over. While you sit around in your mental quagmire, all conflicted and arguing with yourself, the war goes on. This is the kind of dissembling that gets a lot more people killed in the long run.