November sit-out threats worry GOP

That only just now the GOP is hearing these criticisms is the last shovel-full on their grave. There is no 'hole to get out of' because the GOP is done and buried in a liberal wasteland. Conservatives (and conservatism is integral) must revolt.

The Republicans are no different from Democrats on the national level - all rhetoric and little reality. As a former Republican, if I vote at all this November it will be for Libertarians as they appear to be the only group serious about halting Illegal Immigration and putting a stop out of control federal entitlement spending. Sadly the two major parties have devolved into a couple of self-serving entities not much better than a couple of Street Gangs -- using the Force of Law to grab the Money, control the Power and consumed with Killing-off their opposition.

I cannot vote for a marxist like Hussein or a socialist like Hillary. But neither can I vote for a fake marxist or socialist like John. At least Hussein and Hillary are true to their tyrannical roots. John just thinks he deserves his turn. Voting for a republican because he is not quite as repulsive as the democrat is no reason to waste my vote. A vote for the Constitutional or Libertarian party will be a positive vote, not a waste. There is not enough money, not enough good will, not enough blood left in the turnip to fund and sustain all the governmental take-overs the democrats want, anyway. They will hasten their own collapse, too. Voting the democrats into office is like giving a diabetic a box of chocolates. The resulting shock may very well hasten the government bankruptcy that must occur if, indeed, a crisis can shock us back to a conservative nation. Otherwise, we'll just have to decide who gets the house and furniture after the funeral.

To the Republicans: Please DO vote for someone other than McCain or not at all. Help the Democrats take control again. We need to fix what the president has royally FUBAR'd. Four more years of Republican leadership (the way the party is now) is not what we need.

I too find Bush's performance sadly lacking in conservative ideas. I had hoped we would have a conservative in the race this year , but instead we get the worst candidate since Jerry Ford. McCain's stance on the so called man made "global warming" is proof that he is entering an advanced state of liberalism where high taxes fix all problems. If he votes for the Warner-Lieberman "cap and trade" hoax, I will sit out this election and hope to help pick up the pieces after the calamity that will occur after 4 years of tax, tax, tax, spend, spend, spend, spend, and the increasing federal debt.

Domestic oil production will not ease our prices or supplies one bit. When will people realize that oil is a global commodity? And the price and supply is determined on a global scale. Much of the oil coming out of Alaska goes straight to Japan. The answer is not "less dependence on foreign oil"; the answer is "less dependence on oil."

This November's Presidential election seems like a selection between bad and worse. The choice of a liberal Democratic or a liberal Republican as President is not at all appealing to many conservatives. The Democratic candidate could win by default.

McCain continued As President he said he will nominate candidates like Roberts, etc. and I'll bet he will try. But the democrats will filibuster them until he agrees to nominate justices more along their line of thinking, and he will just give in and do it. McCain has been in the Senate for many years yet our energy policy (if there really is one)has left us with ridiculously high fuel costs. Why can China drill for oil off our coasts but we can't? Oh for the nitwit that says why open Anwar because the Alaska North Slope oil goes to Japan. Yes it does, but we do get to swap it for LOWER sulfur oil to keep the environmentalists happy. More oil in the world market, especially from the US could not hurt our position, only strengthen it. In 1995 Clinton said no to Anwar because it would take ten years to develop. Well, it is now 13 years later and what a benefit it would be if it were operational now huh? None of the other two candidates would dare withdraw troops from anywhere if we were wining or in danger so on a functional level there is no real difference. So why vote for any of them?? I refuse to vote for the lesser of two or even three evils. I will vote IF I can find a candidate that will not only talk my values but who will actually govern by them too. A vote for McCain is just a little smaller step towards socialism than either of the other two candidates. We need a step AWAY from socialism, not towards it. McCain is the wrong candidate at the worst possible time for the Republicans. When I get a chance, I think I will re register as an independent. The Republicans do not seem to want my vote so lets stop kidding each other.

I am a native Arizonian and am very familiar with John McCain and frankly, I am tired of voting for someone and then have them turn liberal after the election. I have not missed a Presidential Election in over forty years that I have been a registered Republican. But this year the libertarian candidate is looking better every day. There really is no actual difference in any of the three candidates. McCain talks a good game but when push comes to shove he will govern just like a democrat because he will abandon the conservatives and cross the isle and sell out the the democrats as he has often done in the past. All of his major legislation came to be by his crossing the isle. Look at what we have as a result. The biggest violation of freedom of speech in our history in campaign reform. It was supposed to take all of the big money out of the elections. Yesterday I read the three presidential candidates spent over 201 million just on tv ads. Yes, a new record. Has McCain worked to correct any of the problems he created? Nope. He doesn't make mistakes. Only others do. I was going to vote for him solely on the possible Supreme Court nominations that might take place during the next presidential term. Then I remembered the gang of 14 when the Senate Republicans finally started to show some backbone with the so called nuclear option to force a vote and permanently stop filibusters on court nominees. McCain reached across the isle again and killed it. With it in place we could have had a vote on all of the nominees and very well could have passed all of them. Instead, we ended up with a vote on a few with the rest thrown to the wind and the filibuster still in place. Now that is leadership???? stop kidding each other.

I can't believe some of the childish comments in this thread. So John McCain doesn't score 100% on all your Neanderthal right-wing litmus tests, huh? WAAAAAAAHHHHH!!!! I'm gonna take my ball and go home becasue I can't play quarterback! Do you people not understand the mood of the electrorate this year??? If the GOP had nominated the kind of red meat rock-ribbed "true conservative" that you guys apparently want, we'd be 20 points down in the polls right now!!! The only chance we had of winning this year was to nominate a center/right candidate with strong appeal to independents, which is exactly what we've done. That's why McCain is running neck & neck with Obama right now. Look, the unfortunate fact of the matter is that McCain simply has to take some high-profile positions that clearly differentiate him from Bush if he's to win in November. I don't think for a second that he really believes this ridiculous "global warming" BS. But publicly buying into it is a way to distance himself from Bush in a very visible way. Let's face it: Most of the American public, for now at least, believes man-made global warming is a genuine threat. You guys need to do youselves a favor: Go back to YouTube.com and replay the rants from Jerimiah Wright and Michael Pfleger. Now, imagine a president, cabinet, White House staff and federal judiciary that share that same mindset. If you still, after all this, say that you'll stay home on Election Day in a fit of pique or throw your vote away by voting for a fruitcake like Bob Barr, thereby helping the looney liberals take over this country, then screw you. You're simply a closed-minded, anal-retentive idiot and the GOP will be better off without you and those like you.

(Continued) And for all the talk about how McCain supposedly isn't a conservative, let's look at the most important individual issues one-by-one: 1) National defense/terrorism/Iraq: Seriously, is there even a question here? McCain had the guts to stand up and call for more troops in Iraq when it was VERY unpopular to do so. In addition, he has consistently fought Democratic attempts to hamstring our intelligence services. So who do you want in the White House with the responsibility for our national security? A tough-as-nails war hero who sees true evil for what it is and is determined to aggressively attack and defeat it? Or a limp-wristed "Blame America First" neophyte leftist? 2) Taxes & Govt. Spending: Let's be honest here. I personally think that taxes are gonna have to go up no matter who is president in order to reduce the deficit. I don't see any way around it. But at least with McCain, I can feel confident that his first instinct will be to try and cut spending before agreeing to any tax increases. His reputation on the Hill for fighting pork-barrel spending speaks for itself. Obama and the Dems can't wait to jack up our taxes to pay for a huge new raft of entitlement programs, including a socialization of our health care system. 3) Energy: Think you're gonna get any new drilling for oil in ANWR or off the continental shelf with Obama? Think you're gonna get any new nuclear power plants or new refineries approved with Obama in the White House? Do you want $10 a gallon gasoline in 5 years time? 4) Judicial Appointments: The next president will appoint at least two, and maybe three, new Supreme Court justices. Who do you want making those appointments? John McCain has consistently championed a philosophy of judicial restraint. With Barack Obama, you're going to get liberal activist judges who will seek to re-make society by legislating from the bench. 5) Immigration: Sorry, but you "amnesty monkeys" out there are simply gonna have to accept the fact that we're not gonna round up 12,000,000 people and deport them. Ever. It ain't gonna happen, OK? Get over it. At least with McCain, you will get a continuation of the fence constructiion that is now underway on the Mexican border. If Obama is elected, that construction will immediately stop and it will be back to a total "open border" policy for at least the next four years. 6) Abortion & Gun Control: Now these are two issues you red meat social conservatives have to give McCain credit for. He has consistently been on the right side of these issues throughout his entire political career. Clearly, for whatever disagreements you people might have with McCain, he represents a FAR better alternative than Barack Obama! The next president is gonna have to face down Iran over its nuclear weapons program. Do you really want that president to be Jimmy Carter, Part Two? Wake up. Grow up.

Hey Danram, it's good to see someone who can present a cogent argument without resorting to name-calling. (This is where I hope your intelligent enough to pick up on the heavy sarcasm). Is that your only strength? Because your reasons for insulting those with a principled disagreement with a phony conservative who couldn't even pass as a moderate rino, s#ck. McCain does not deserve the vote of anyone that believes in the constitution. BTW, the senate gutted the fence bill, courtesy of Kay Bailey Hutchinson, with the liberal McCains help. They took the money. So your claim that McCain will continue the fence is so much BS, as is the rest of your argument. We are in this position because the politicians have been giving us "better then the other guy" choices. I do not care what happens to the country if it votes in Obama. If we survive, we will correct it in the next election, with a real conservative. If we don't survive as a country, we deserve it. Thats what revolutions are for. You may be able to sleep after voting for an amnesty loving, anti-free speech, anti-tax cut, anti big-business, anti-drilling, (that alone makes any of them traitors), pro global warming scam liar, (I believe we agree that he is a liar, you just seem to think it's ok for him to lie), more power to you. I would not cross the street to pee on any of them if they were on fire. Now go think of some insults and names for me, you unprincipled wh#re rino!:-) realetybytes.townhall.com realetybytes@yahoo.com

Danram is right. Stop whining that you cannot get your ideal candidate. Obama is going to destroy this country, perhaps permanently. You are going to compromise yours, your children's and grand children's future because you feel slighted? Sorry to tell you that democracy does not mean that each person should have his/her own customized candidate. Obama is a threat to this nation by whining about McCain and sitting out the election is on par with treason!

Danram is right. Stop whining that you cannot get your ideal candidate. Obama is going to destroy this country, perhaps permanently. You are going to compromise yours, your children's and grand children's future because you feel slighted? Sorry to tell you that democracy does not mean that each person should have his/her own customized candidate. Obama is a threat to this nation by whining about McCain and sitting out the election is on par with treason!