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Monday, November 24, 2008

BREITBART: The kids are all right

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kmooneyham

This sounds like the best "plan" I've heard in quite a while...the Democrats are most certainly NOT for youth; they only want to prop up the Boomer generation and think somehow, if they just get free healthcare and all their kids' money (that is, the ones who had kids---see Roe v. Wade), they will live forever like they promised themselves at Woodstock. Yeah, some of the old tracks are still sounding good, but the rest of the shtick has gotten pretty tired...here's to the REAL tomorrow!
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NavyBrat

As one of those on the outside edge of Mr.Breitbart's demographic(I'm 29), I think this is the first article that I've read that hits the nail on the head as far as capturing today's youth & preaching the good that comes from limited gov. & capitalism. Colleges may have thier share of whack-job profs, but students ARE conservative in may places. They don't get all the media play that their lib classmates do(what a shock), but they DO exist. I thought this was a function of going to college in the South(I went to U. of Memephis), but after moving to Pittsburgh & having lived here for 6 yrs & having met Pitt students, I know this isn't just a regional thing. The kids at Pitt are almost as like minded as my friends & I were @ Memphis. They just need someone to lead them, someone charismatic that they can get behind. Bobby Jindal comes to mind.
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truthspeaker1

I remember an Ivy league young republican business major commenting on the loss of manufacturing jobs to Asia. We'll think, they will sweat. How foolish the young. Asia is in the process of eating our lunch and we are going to have to use every resource to keep even a portion.
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NavyBrat

Truthspeaker. Would you agree that the reason so many jobs get shipped overseas is due to the ridiculously high corporate taxes that we charge in this country? Being as how capital takes the path of least resistance in the market place, wouldn't it then stand to reason that the jobs would go to the places with less taxes? Look at he steel industry. I've only lived in Pittsburgh for 6 years, but I see the effects of that long ago problem are still GLARINGLY evident in this region. I'm all for free trade, but we also have to lower coporate taxes & nix many of these idotic, un-realistic enviro regulations that no one else in the industrialized world lives up to. ESPECIALLY the Chinese & the Indians. Those reasons & the fact that education in Asia is DRASTICALLY differnt than it is here. They don't seem to be as concerned with "how lil Suzie & Johnny 'feel'" & more with grades & results translated into test scores. This has been the case for quite some time. The Asians will continue to "eat our lunch" as long as we have prohibitive corporate taxes & eviro regs, & crummy math & science scores in our schools.
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truthspeaker1

NavyBrat wrote: Truthspeaker. Would you agree that the reason so many jobs get shipped overseas is due to the ridiculously high corporate taxes that we charge in this country? ******************************** What is the actual corporate tax after the write offs and charges against next years earnings and on and on. Some very large corporations do not pay any taxes at all while others pay less than the rate for individuals. We need to investigate getting rid of the loop holes and set a flat tax for corporations. I will bet you they would scream bloody murder at that one. I do agree with you on education in America. We have to revamp our schools from top to bottom.We have to demand more from parents, teachers and students.
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DJShay12

Umm, I hardly think taxes are the only reason corporations are sending jobs overseas. The real reason is that they can pay those workers pennies on the dollar and do not have to provide heathcare. It's the cheap labor, not taxes.
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NavyBrat

Truthspeaker. Flat tax? AWESOME!!! Burn that house of cards known as the IRS. For both buisness & individuals. Some conservatives have proposed this in the past & it's gone over like the proverbial breaking of wind in church. I also like Huckabee's idea of the "fair tax," though I'm still not clear on the difference b/w it & a flat tax. One thing is for certain though. Gov. spending needs to decrease just like everyone else's has, b/c after a while, all the interest rate cuts & massive spending are gonna make the dollar worth the same as a piece of a used toilet paper. On the education front, I think its too bad that more people don't think like you & I. I was the son of a middle school/college English teacher & a former Navy dentist & Vietnam vet who taught US history @ U. of Memphis upon his retirement. He was one of the few teachers on staff who taught from a conservative point of view. Many of MY instructors used to tell me after my classes that although they may not have agreed with my father's politics, his methodology in relating the facts through his experiences was beyond reproach. Many friends & acquaintences had mentioned to me that his class was the most interesting one they had taken that semester. I am one of the one's who is mathematically retarded. I blame no one but myself for just quitting when I didn't get it. All the parental help in the world couldn't save me. I DO read & write better than most people in this country. This is the only thing that I freely admit being conceited about. I suppose in a time when most college freshmen can't even write a simple 5 paragraph essay correctly, this puts me in a better position than most in some respects. I appreciate your honesty. The Poster Formerly Known As DTFrankel
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NavyBrat

DJShay12. Would you agree that in many cases, onerous union contracts would've also contributed to this job flight? Like my previous example of the steel industry. Now that the Steel Belt is the Rust Belt, we all know that all the steel went east to China. Due, in large part, to onerous union labor contracts. This isn't the late 1800 or 1930's. While the unions serve a well intended purpose, they have, in many cases, become a rapidly mestasisizing cancer on the industries who's workers they supposedly represent. If the unions cared about the companies that EMPLOY their members(thereby allowing them to exist at all), they'd work to a consensus that would make labor standards reasonable without choking the company's ability to turn a profit & in turn employ more people & provide more goodies to those whom they ALREADY employ.
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truthspeaker1

April 10,2004 The news that more than 60 percent of U.S. corporations failed to pay any federal taxes from 1996 through 2000 when corporate profits were soaring and that corporate tax receipts had fallen to just 7.4 percent of overall federal tax revenue in 2003 – the lowest since 1983 and the second-lowest rate since 1934 – is an outrage. But it should come as no surprise to anyone who has been paying attention to national tax policy over the past few years. The General Accounting Office (GAO) report also found that an astonishing 94 percent of corporations reported tax liability of less than 5 percent of their total income during the same time period. ***************************** What are they screaming about 7.4 percent of overall revenues according to the GAO. They are corporate leeches sucking the blood of the American people. I am sick and tired of carrying these corporate welfare queens let them pay a fair share, and pay their workers a living wage.
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Eclectablog

"The future of the Grand Old Party needs to be dangerously youthful, devastatingly attractive and outrageously fun." As opposed to having good ideas, plans and strategies for making our country stronger and a place where everybody can achieve the American Dream? You make it sounds like it's a brand and there's no need for substance if you have the right image. What a sad statement for the Republican Party if this way of seeing things is in any way representative of its members. Good luck with that. You can see how well it worked out (not) with Sarah Palin. Oh, and I couldn't let this comment go by without saying something: "After bravely kicking al Qaeda out of Iraq..." Don't you mean "After opening the doors of Iraq to allow al Qaeda in only to have to drive them back out again at the cost of high civilian and military casualties..."?
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jbentley4

In case Mr. Breitbart didn't notice the results three weeks ago, there aren't any young Republicans. The disasters of the last eight years and failures of everything from deregulation and trickle down economics to quagmires in Iraq and Afghanistan, have scared an entire generation of young Americans aways from the GOP. You want people who are dangerously youthful, devastatingly attractive and outrageously fun? They were all volunteering for Obama.
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NavyBrat

Ahh. A true "vast right wing conspiracy subscriber. Yeah. Like al Qaeda wasn't there to begin with. Those training camps outside Baghdad were found by the SEALs. And what "new ideas" has them Dem party pushed? The same old tired a** garbage about how The Man will take care of you from cradle to grave & continue to heap entitlements on the "disaffected group of the week". There is no right the gov't. can GIVE you, without first taking it away.
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NavyBrat

jbently4. Don't worry. There ARE many young conservatives out there. I happen to be one. Give us a candidate with rock star appeal like your guy, but with more substance(not hard since Obama has none) & I think you'd be surprised. And before anyone thinks that these youths will all be little Bible beaters & rednecks, here's some thought for you. There are a lot of suburban & middle class kids who watch MTV, listen to music that'd make their folks cringe, yet they still would follow conservative values, if a candidate came along that could relate conservative principles to them in ways they can understand. As I stated previously, Bobby Jindal seems to be that man.
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AndyinPhoenix

Is there another forum like the PajamasTV Conservatism_2.0-palooza on the books? Aside from making funny jokes and comments about kids and younger people, the GOP needs to hammer out a viable platform that addresses what most conservatives and independents want in America, and package it in a way that most of America will be solidly support. And for the GOP management that lead us to successive defeats in the 2006 and 2008, I think time we let some young bloods step up and show what they can do (we can't do much worse).
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