JEFFREY: Debate in Obama's past

Obama's website claims that a law to protect the life of a child who survives an abortion was already on the books. Anybody who violated this law would be guilty of a class 3 felony. Shouldn't this have applied to the circumstance described by the nurse?

kdwprint, if such a law were on the books, why would the AG of Illinois tell Sen. O'Malley otherwise? And why didn't that subject come up during debate? All Obama had to do was say this is redundant legislation, and therefore a waste of time. Apparently, nowhere in the transcript does it show that he made that assertion at the time. Instead he tried to cast the bill as anti-abortion. What you read on Obama's website is a flat lie.

Of course Obama lied, he wanted to keep the child scrafice to Marx going, remember Marxists are very religous people and will do anything to further the worship of Marx.

cblittle, I am looking at http://www.ilga.gov/legislation/ilcs/documents/072005100K6.htm Section 6-2b. I am no defender of Obama. Just trying to discern the truth.

kdwprint, the link you provide shows only a small portion of the 1975 Illinois abortion law. Your snippet does not show the preceding sections in which definitions of critical terms are spelled out. Depending on exactly how the lawyer O'Malley asked his question of the Illinois AG, and depending on whether a court case or subsequent legislation had modified the original 1975 statute, the lawyer O'Malley could very well have had a good faith basis for drafting and filing the "born alive" legislation that ONLY OBAMA opposed in the Illinois senate. In any case, there seems to be no dispute that babies born after botched abortions WERE being neglected in Illinois. Again, Obama's opposition AT THE TIME seems only to have been that the proposed law was somehow a back-door to abortion restriction. The "law already on the books" defense regarding born-alive seems to be of recent vintage. BTW, if you look at the whole thing on the IL GOV website, you'll see that sections 4, 7, 8 & 9 of the original 1975 abortion bill are not available for viewing. One more thing... did you get your link to the snippet from the Obama website?

cblittle, thanks for a more thorough answer. I already know where I stand but thought I would try to see if the issue was being represented honestly by Obama. Yes, I did get the link from the Obama website. Should have know better.

I thought B. O. was a constitutional scholar. But he thinks that the Equal Protection clause outlaws killing children? The sad thing is that he probably does. Liberals think every good and desirable thing can be found in the constitution and everything bad thing is prohibited thereby. So we have no need for lawmakers or good deeds.