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Bochy spent 3 1/2 hours in a relaxed, near-sleep state under Paxson’s guidance. She talks constantly as she walks around the room. While Hayes had his eyes closed, per Paxson’s instructions, he recalled that the strongest direction about quitting came as she spoke instructions and Hayes heard sounds resembling a stack of magazines emphatically being thrown to the ground, one by one.

Both Bochy and Hayes were asked to sit all the way back in a recliner. They gave Paxson signals they could hear her by moving a foot or finger. Each brought along a can of chew and Paxson proceeded to educate them about all the ingredients they were putting in their bodies _ make that lower lips.

“It’s pretty disgusting in a year’s time how much nicotine you put in your body,” Bochy said.

Education is Paxson’s first order of business when a patient arrives. She explains the conscious and subconscious minds.

“People were not born chewing tobacco,” Paxson said in a telephone interview from Arizona. “Your mind knows how to not do something more than you know how to do something.”

Not that it’s quite that simple.

Last year, Bochy tried Nicorette gum and an array of different non-tobacco, herbal dips. He made it about a month, then hit hard times and fell back into his old dipping ways.

The 56-year-old Bochy tried his first dip at 18. He was playing in a summer league in Virginia, and his roommate from North Carolina chewed every day.

Even he didn’t know if he could give it up.

“There’s an unknown factor when you see a hypnotist,” Bochy said. “You haven’t been there, so I didn’t know what to expect. It shocked me.”

Bochy admits the stress of his team’s recent struggles _ the reigning World Series champions had lost eight of 10 heading into Monday night’s home game with Pittsburgh _ has had him considering “changing up the look and putting one in.”

But Paxson doesn’t think Bochy will break down and actually do it.

The 70-year-old Paxson has been doing this for 30 years.

“It’s an awesome thing,” she said. “Once you know how to work with your mind and body, it’s easy. Once you know how to do that, you can do almost anything.”

Not that the rest of the Giants are necessarily convinced. They razz Hayes because he has been seen smoking the occasional cigarette or cigar, or using the imitation snuff since seeing Paxson.

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