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“I talk about supplementation, steroids, how they’re really a shortcut,” McNamee said. “It’s usually taken by people that didn’t put in the hard work that they should have put in.”

His work with the two boys dealt with baseball drills, not conditioning. Piccione said McNamee has helped him with running and cardio fitness.

“I’m too young to lift weights and stuff,” he said.

McNamee shies away from discussing Clemens, citing a gag order. When he says something about the seven-time Cy Young Award winner, he quickly tells the three scribbling reporters to “strike that.”

He said Pettitte’s decision last week to retire didn’t surprise him but he wishes Pettitte had decided to play one more season to win another championship. He’s saddened that he hasn’t been able to speak with Pettitte, whom he considers a friend.

Pettitte said in a statement to the congressional committee three years ago that Clemens had told him a decade earlier that he had used HGH. Clemens said then: “I think he misremembers.”

McNamee seemed to be referring to Pettitte when he said: “In my opinion, I think things have come out to light and things are looking better for me.”

He hopes to work with the team at Archbishop Molloy High, where he once went to school. He hopes his life will be a little more stable. For a while, media was camped outside his home.

“That’s why I moved four times in the last two years,” he said.

But he knows his name will keep on being brought up in baseball discussions, especially as the time approaches when Clemens becomes eligible for the Hall of Fame in 2013.

“I’m part of history, so I think it’s going to continue to come. Good, bad or I don’t really know,” he said.

And he’s not shy about discussing his attributes.

“You can’t take away that paper that I’ve got on the wall,” he said. “I have a lot of paper _ paper meaning degrees, certifications, licenses. You can’t take that way from somebody. Plus, I’m a pretty good player.”