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Church portrays a sense of confidence in his choices and the evidence to support those decisions is everywhere. But he admits it’s not always easy.

“When you’ve got that fear though, to me, that’s when you’re making the right music,” he said. “If you’re making stuff that’s just safe, yeah, maybe it is a No. 1 song, but does anybody care? That’s my biggest issue. When you have a No. 1 song and you can’t sell a record or you can’t sell a ticket, what did you accomplish? Did you really move people or did you just make background music for everybody else that’s very forgettable. And I can promise that what we do won’t be forgettable.”