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“He graduated to the setup role,” Baker said. “Now, hopefully, he’s graduated _ which we think he might have _ to the closer’s role. It just depends on how often you can use him.”

Given Chapman’s shoulder problems last season, the Reds have been careful about pitching him too many days in a row. He pitched in four of five games in New York last week against the Mets and Yankees, but hasn’t gone three days in a row _ typical for a closer.

“We didn’t want to go four out of five,” Baker said. “We hoped not to use him (that much). But we’re on an honor basis _ he said he felt fine. I just tell him to make sure you’re telling the truth. Right now it’s not hero time. It’s May, not September.”