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“I feel like all we’re doing is what we did back then; we’re doing it on a bigger scale,” Mr. Church said. “I think more people are paying attention now. It certainly makes me feel good that we stuck to our guns. If you ask me about being kind of in the middle of things, I like the edges. So for me it’s about staying out there on those edges and being able to do something different every time. I think that’s how we got here.”