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CHUCK TODD:
19:06:59:00: All right.

KEN CUCCINELLI:
19:06:59:00: —if you’ll elect me on November 5th.

CHUCK TODD:
19:07:01:00: All right, you guys were pretty good there. Only about five seconds over for both of you. (LAUGH) I’m pleading, we’re all pleading with you tonight, that that was your talking points and — and — and hit us — and — and try to answer our questions. So let me begin. It’s gonna be a similar question to both of you. But Mr. McAuliffe, you get the first question.

19:07:17:00: Nearly $20 million’s been spent on TV ads in this race. 75% of ‘em, we did the calculation, have been negative. This is both of you. I want each of you to respond to the stereotype you’ve been tryin’ to create — about the other. Mr. McAuliffe, the stereotype of you is that you’re an operator, cheerleader more than a legislator or governor. That you don’t have the relevant experience to be governor. And that you’re a man in a hurry, who’s willing to use political connections, sometimes in very high places, to take shortcuts. Your response?

TERRY MCAULIFFE:
19:07:48:00: I’m a young man who grew up in — Syracuse, New York. I started my first business when I was 14 years old, ‘cause I had to help pay for college. I’ve been involved in a number of businesses since that time, chairman of a bank by the age of 30, built thousands of homes. I’ve been involved in a wide variety of different businesses. I want to bring that business approach, that business experience. I think it’s important to have someone in the governor’s office who has those business experience, understands the ups and downs of businesses, understands that risk is inherent in our economy, and is willing to put everything in to make sure we grow and diversify our economy.

19:08:25:00: With sequestration, with the budget cuts that we have seen in the Department of Defense, with $500 billion, the stimulus is over, the next governor’s real challenge is how do you grow and diversify our businesses? How do we create new economic activity? Dorothy and I would love to have our five children stay in Virginia. But in order to stay in Virginia, we need to have those jobs of the 21st century, cyber security, nanotechnology, bio life sciences. Those are what we need to do to grow our economy.

19:08:53:00: Now we have had a lot of different ads. And there are differences between the two of us. My opponent has spent most of his career on a social ideological agenda. He has — pushed personhood legislation which would outlaw most forms of contraception, would make the pill illegal in Virginia. He bullied the Board of Health that would shut down the woman’s health centers. Women are 50% of the workforce of the United States of America. You cannot grow an economy by putting walls up around Virgin —

CHUCK TODD:
19:09:19:00: I’m gonna stop you there. Mr. Cuccinelli, you have 90 seconds to respond.

KEN CUCCINELLI:
19:09:22:00: Thank you. (THROAT CLEARS) Well, in this race — of course, we’ve got our ads on television. I’d point you to the kinds of ads we’ve been running. Right now you all can see running the ad — about a case that I’m very proud of. One about Thomas Haynesworth. Thomas Haynesworth holds the record in Virginia for serving more time in prison while innocent than anyone in the history of the Commonwealth.

19:09:47:00: And he’s out today on a 6-4 vote of our Court of Appeals, because I took that case and joined his side. And we won 6-4, 5-5 is a loss. You know, that’s the kind of story we’re tryin’ to tell, Chuck, in this race. That’s a story I’m very proud of. I think there are reasons not to vote for Mr. McAuliffe for governor. We make those — that case as well.

19:10:10:00: But we have a positive record to look back on in my case. We’ve done a great job in the Attorney General’s Office, fighting health care fraud, internet predators. We’ve worked even with Capital One, as we sit here on some justice issues, justice access issues. Those are things near and dear to my heart. That’s where we focused in this race.

19:10:29:00: I’m the only candidate who’s gotten both of the major business endorsements so far in this race, from the Northern Virginia Technology Council’s tech pack. And just this week from Virginia’s small businesses, the N.F.I.B. — has endorsed me, as well, with their 5,500 small business members. They obviously think that my preparation and my plans for growing the economy here in Virginia is best not just for them, but to make Virginia a better place —

CHUCK TODD:
19:10:54:00: All right.

KEN CUCCINELLI:
19:10:55:00: —to live and raise a family.

CHUCK TODD:
19:10:56:00: Mr. McAuliffe, as you get your — 60 seconds to respond — on here, I want you to deal with this issue. You — you one time said to the New York Times, “I’ve met all of my business contacts through politics. It’s all interrelated.” And we’ve looked at it. And a lot of it is political ties. After all the ethical woes going on right now in Richmond with the current governor, why shouldn’t that give the voters pause that there’s gonna be some — ethical, questionable deals with too many political figures in your — in your life?

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