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Anglican Bishop Minns tells Lutherans to leave

By Julia Duin on Sept. 25, 2009 into Belief Blog

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I was just about to go to bed at 1 a.m. today when I saw that the Convocation of Anglicans in North America (CANA) - one of several groups representing the 100,000 or so Episcopalians who have left their denomination for more conservative climes - has posted a video for the benefit of a this weekend's Lutheran CORE meeting near Indianapolis. I last wrote about that here.

Lutheran CORE has drawn 1,200+ folks to a meeting to discuss what future - if any - conservatives have in the Evangelical Lutheran Church in America now that that the denomination has OK'd gay clergy as of last month. The CORE folks have given every indication they're heading out the door to form a new group or join with other dissident Lutheran groups. 

And CANA is encouraging them to move out, according to a short video posted on YouTube. CANA's lead bishop, Martyn Minns, until recently the rector of Truro Church in Fairfax, Va., shows up in somewhat informal garb with a number of icons and religious paintings behind him. Am not sure the reason for the rodeo music accompaniment but sure enough, the bishop tells Lutherans that "We know the pain; we've been there" in reference to how his parish and 14 other churches left the Episcopal Diocese of Virginia from 2005-2007 - and the ensuing lawsuit that occurred when they tried to take their property with them. (They won the suit on the local level but it is on appeal).

"We know the joy and freedom that came when we move away from a church that has frankly lost its way," the bishop said. "You're not alone..."

Watch it here:

- Julia Duin, religion editor

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CeliaNelson

If I were Lutheran, I'm not sure whether I would find this comforting or annoyed at the interference.
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robroy

Bp Minns is correct. The denomination is now on an entirely predictable decline: conservatives leave, liberals become emboldened (homosexual marriages, transgender clergy, gay "pride" parade sponsorships, etc.), more conservatives and some moderates leave, liberals more emboldened, etc. Eventually the spectrum will move so far to the left, that Perez Hilton would be considered conservative. The liberals know they can drive the Biblically faithful away with simply more and more outrageous behavior. What is the most liberal denomination with respect to homosexuality? What is the fastest declining? One and the same. The UCC.
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Jaeger

When a Church turns its back on Christ in order to conform to a degenerating World, then the faithful remnant need to leave that apostate Church and follow Christ. That is all that Bishops Minns is saying.
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scottburgan

One can certainly understand the anger that parishioners feel when their church diverges from the core beliefs of the church and the membership. Churches change and evolve, whether we want that change or not, sometimes for the better or sometimes for the worse depending on one’s perspective. It is up to the membership to decide their spiritual path and leave others to take theirs, whether they agree with it or not. There is no need for anger. Spirituality and religion need to be decisions left up to the individual, which is what made this country so great. That is why the Episcopal church needs to stop their litigation against the Anglican church. It’s a waste of time, money, and effort and only serves to prolong the inevitable and heighten anger. The Episcopal church made a decision and individuals made theirs to leave.
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pammy

The Lutheran Church has already begun to split. Traditional parishes are leaving the ELCA to join Lutheran Congregations in Mission for Christ (www.lcmc.net), which was formed in March, 2001).
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ncdebell

If a practicing homosexual is no longer engaged in an act that is offensive to God, nor an act that separates man from God, why must the homosexuals who are being ordained remain faithful to their partner? Is not "being faithful", not willing to share oneself sexually, an affront to the practicing free sex person in both the homo and hetero community, not something that would become a sin and thus should be addressed by these newly "informed members of the synods, lay and clerical? Sex for all at all times would remove any uncomfortable barriers for all? Well except those who believe the Bible.
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luther1

Myself and my wife prayed, aganonized over, and spoke with our minister about the possibility of this decision after nearly 25 years at an ELCA church. The day after the decision, we are in a new Lutheran church. We have returned to our roots, the Missouri Synod. The Bishop has the absolute right to speak out for Christ and we pray that one day we will all find all Christian churches rejoined in Christ. I do not believe the Bishop was saying much more than he knows the pain of a church torn by political decisions made by men.
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