"If the Russians are coming across mechanized, with airborne and infantry units wearing their body armor, it basically means the Ukrainian rifles have no ability to penetrate the body armor worn by the Russian troops, meaning you're talking about having to shoot somebody six, seven, eight times, in the chest," Mr. Traudt said. "They're going to get bumped, but there's no lethality involved."
"They've got better equipment than they had five years ago," said Scott Traudt, an executive with Green Mountain, a Vermont gun manufacturer. "They've got new grenade launchers that are awesome. The helmets are better than our helmets. The body armor is better than our body armor. They're doing a lot of things right. I'm pretty amazed at it."