"The government shouldn't intervene. Politicians don't make this decision. But there are people on the other side who firmly believe the contrary and that this is — and it is, in fact — the beginning of the hierarchy they believe in," she said. "So the question is, who controls a woman's body? Herself, which seems to me a requisite of it's a basic human right. It's a requisite of democracy. But without controlling reproduction, you lose control of nationalism, which has two pillars, which is territory and population. You lose the ability to decide how many workers, how many soldiers, what class, what race and so on."