- The Washington Times - Thursday, July 30, 2015

A Colorado Planned Parenthood doctor is captured on video discussing fetal body parts, adding that calling the activity “research” offers legal protections.

Dr. Savita Ginde, vice president and medical director of Planned Parenthood of the Rocky Mountains, is shown agreeing multiple times to pricing per body part harvested, and suggesting ways to avoid legal consequences.

She spoke with people pretending to be fetal tissue buyers, but who were actually recording the conversations for the anti-abortion Center for Medical Progress.

Highlights of this fourth video have Dr. Ginde saying that “Putting it under ‘research’ gives us a little bit of an overhang over the whole thing.”

She also implies that the Colorado organization’s lawyer, Kevin Paul, can help the affiliate address laws governing fetal tissue collections and distribution: “He’s got it figured out that he knows that even if, because we talked to him in the beginning, you know, we were like, ‘We don’t want to get called on,’ you know, ‘selling fetal parts across states,’ ” she said.

When the buyers ask, “And you feel confident that they’re building those layers?” Dr. Ginde says, “I’m confident that our legal [staff] will make sure we’re not put in that situation.”

The April 7, 2015, conversation with Dr. Ginde includes discussions of availability of “over 14s,” referring to unborn babies in the second trimester, and the average daily delivery of “intact specimens,” referring to fetuses who are not aborted in pieces or “war-torn,” as one Planned Parenthood official called it.

They also discuss strategy for doing fetal tissue procurement “correctly” — agreeing that doing things in “a research vein” is better than as a “business venture” — and there was a need for Planned Parenthood clinics to be aware of each other’s activities.

“If you have someone in a really anti-[abortion] state who’s going to be doing this for you, they’re probably going to get caught,” Dr. Ginde noted.

While some of the new footage was seen in a previous video, Thursday’s release includes a longer session of medical officials picking through fetal remains: A skull was “cracked,” and eyeballs, kidney, heart, stomach, adrenal parts were identified while they looked for a leg.

They also concluded that the 12-week-old fetus was “another boy.”

Thursday’s video release comes on the heels of a California judge blocking release of another Center for Medical Progress video, at the request of bioservice firm StemExpress.

The Los Angeles Superior Court issued a temporary injunction Tuesday stopping the Center for Medical Progress from releasing videos that include certain officials of StemExpress. The company works with Planned Parenthood to transfer tissue from aborted fetuses to medical researchers.

David Daleiden, project leader for the Center for Medical Progress, urged elected officials to “listen to the public outcry for an immediate moratorium on Planned Parenthood’s taxpayer funding.”

Some 10 states and congressional committees are investigating the family planning and abortion giant.

It is a federal felony to engage in the sale or purchase of human fetal tissue, although it may be donated with consent, and shipping and handling expenses may be reimbursed.

Federal law also mandates that the timing or method of abortion cannot be altered to obtain the fetal tissue.

Planned Parenthood of the Rocky Mountains has a contract to supply fetal tissue to Colorado State University, the video said.

Valerie Richardson contributed to this report.

• Cheryl Wetzstein can be reached at cwetzstein@washingtontimes.com.

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