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Chinese spy who defected tells all
Question of the Day
A veteran Chinese intelligence officer who defected to the United States says that his country’s civilian spy service spends most of its time trying to steal secrets overseas but also works to bolster Beijing’s Communist Party rule by repressing religious and political dissent internally.
“In some sense you can say that intelligence work between two countries is just like war but without the fire,” Li Fengzhi told The Washington Times in an interview aided by an interpreter.
Mr. Li worked for years as an Ministry of State Security intelligence officer inside China before defecting to the United States, where is he awaiting a response to his request for political asylum. He gave a rare, detailed interview to The Times on Sunday regarding the activities of the MSS, China’s Communist-controlled civilian spy agency.
His prior work as a Chinese spy was confirmed to The Times by a Western government source familiar with his defection. The source spoke on the condition of anonymity because of the sensitivity of Mr. Li’s case.
Mr. Li told The Times that the MSS focuses on both counterintelligence - working against foreign intelligence agencies - and the collection of secrets and technology.
The MSS, however, is unique from other nations’ intelligence services in that it is patterned after the former Soviet Union’s KGB political police. Its most important mission is “to control the Chinese people to maintain the rule of the Communist Party,” he added.
Wang Baodong, a spokesman for the Chinese Embassy in Washington, did not address Mr. Li’s comments directly but repeated past Chinese government statements regarding its intelligence activities.
“Allegations of China conducting spying activities against the United States are groundless and unwarranted,” he said Wednesday. “China never engages itself in activities that will harm other countries’ national interests.”
Mr. Wang said communist rule in China produced historic economic and social progress and that China has contributed to a more secure world. “This is a fact no one can deny,” Mr. Wang said.
On those who leave the party, Mr. Wang said “there are also a handful of people who betray their faith and leave the party, whose acts as well as some people’s political lies will never shadow the great feats of the party.”
Mr. Li said he left China’s intelligence services to protest the agency’s role in government repression of political dissidents and religious groups that are outside of the ruling communist system.
The MSS, mainly a foreign intelligence service, is “deeply” involved in domestic repression of nonofficial Christian churches and the outlawed Falun Gong religious group, Mr. Li said.
“The Ministry of State Security is actually not doing things for the security of the country, but rather they spend a lot of effort to control the people, the dissidents, the lower-class Chinese people, and make these people suffer and also make their life miserable,” he said.
About the Author
Bill Gertz is a national security columnist for The Washington Times and senior editor at The Washington Free Beacon (www.freebeacon.com). He has been with The Times since 1985.
He is the author of six books, four of them national best-sellers. His latest book, “The Failure Factory,” on government bureaucracy and national security, was published in September 2008.
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