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"I was trying to put together an RFK movie and running into a brick wall. It seemed like it should be an easier pitch," says Damon, still nursing the wound. "It's really hard to find a way to put these things together because the business is so different."

Bale and Damon go into overdrive for 'Ford v Ferrari' →

"I read the script and I thought it was a crowd-pleasing movie in all the right ways - like a movie that people would want to go see," said Damon. "That's what we made. It's just a great underdog story."

'Ford v Ferrari' revs into high gear at Toronto Film Fest →