"I'm kind of a control freak, from our posters to our merch, to how a show goes," he said. "We have control of everything that we do, which I think is really important. It's just become more difficult. If you think of it as a business, as the business grows, you've got to start trusting people with certain things, because you just don't have time to deal with it all."
"And we both tried to cancel," White said.